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Hooking Up with the Joneses

By Pagan Kennedy

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Mention the word "swinger" to most people and they flash on the 1970s: hot tubs, key parties, shag rugs, and Barry White booming out of the eight-track. But in fact, the logistical hurdles to spouse swapping used to loom so large that it's amazing anyone managed it all. To gain entrée to "the lifestyle" (as it's called), you had to schlep to an adult bookstore for one of the newsletters that acted as clearing-houses for swinger activity. In this smudgy samizdat, you would find a few hundred ads. To contact someone, you had to send money to the newsletter staff; after days or weeks, you might be able to set up a date. Often, people traveled hundreds of miles to swing. "If you lived in Boston, you'd read swinger ads from Pittsburgh. It was that whole I-don't-want-to-do-it-with-someone-from-my-backyard thing," says Kim Airs, a sex educator and founder of the now-closed Brookline sex-toy shop Grand Opening. She says it's still common for swingers to drive out of state to attend events—because who wants to go to an orgy and run into your yoga instructor?

Ed would know. The éminence grise of the Massachusetts swinger scene, he's a relic from the old, labor-intensive era of swapping, and as a host, he makes an effort to keep his parties full of strangers if his guests so request. He still runs one of the most venerable house parties around, from his base in a town just west of Boston—though of course the actual house itself has changed many times over the years. Before our first meeting, Ed tells me how to pick him out of a crowd: He'll be the guy who looks like Jerry Garcia in his senior years, if Jerry had gone on a diet and the diet sort of worked. This description turns out to be spot-on. When Ed slides into the seat across from me at the Taqueria Mexico in Waltham, he's vintage Jerry, right down to the aviator frames. He also gives off the same vibe that seemed to emanate from Garcia in the 1980s—deep and inconsolable boredom. In fact, Ed admits that organizing the parties has become tedious, but for some reason he keeps doing it anyway. He himself is not even married, which makes him an anomaly in this world; instead, he takes his girlfriend to events.

In an average week, several people contact him about his parties. Almost always it's men who call. When he hears a male voice on the line, Ed will say, "Can I speak to your lady?" Often, there is no lady, which means Ed will refuse to reveal party details. Like most other hosts, Ed prohibits single men from his soirees. Many swingers enforce an odd double standard when it comes to homosexuality: All the men must act 100 percent straight, while most of the women are assumed to be "bi-curious" and can fool around with other wives. That means you can never have enough women at your party.

And what to do with all the leftover guys? Gangbangs, of course. These are parties in hotel suites, where many men have sex with one woman. Ed—God love him—dislikes the word "gangbang." He calls these events "ladies' choice parties," and indeed, that's a more accurate term, because the woman runs the show. Before the party, she picks prospective lovers from a password-protected website. The lucky guys appear at the appointed time and place. Afterward, everyone chips in for the cost of the hotel room.

But what about the husband who stays at home while his wife is off gangbanging? When I ask Ed about this, he simply shrugs. This is the part of spouse swapping that boggles the mind: All of the couples I encounter seem to love each other without the stain of jealousy.

"You know," I tell Ed, "I've noticed that swingers tend to be people who are very good at being married." Many are high school sweethearts who have stayed together for decades. They never got a chance to have a period of exploration on their own, so they go through their awakening together, as middle-aged people. "That's why I think my boyfriend and I have no interest in swinging," I go on. "Before we met, he and I both spent years running around as single people. We've already had our slutty years. For us, monogamy still seems exotic."

"Shhh, shh," Ed scolds, making a downward motion with his hands. Several times during dinner, he reminds me to keep my voice low—even though we're sitting in a booth and the people around us are conversing in Spanish. More than the fear of being overheard, I suspect, Ed relishes the secrecy involved for another reason: Through swinging, Ed gets to feel like an outlaw.

Massachusetts' strait-laced zoning restrictions prohibit people from getting naked in any commercial space. Such laws, designed to discourage strip clubs, also make it difficult for people to swing in public spaces. I had hoped Ed might invite me to one of his parties, but as it turns out, he doesn't have any scheduled (right before press time, Ed did find a location, and extended an invitation to the Boston fact-checker). He's just put money down on two properties where he might throw parties, but still hasn't nailed down a single location. "You can't have a [spouse-swapping] club in Massachusetts," says Ed, "so anything you do is going to be temporary."

Spend any time with the swingers, and you'll gain a new appreciation for the contradictory culture of Massachusetts, this blue state with old-school blue laws. Here, we'll defend your right to have consensual sex with any other adult; we'll sell you vibrators, handcuffs, and birthday cakes shaped like asses. And yet actual sex freaks us out—it's so sweaty and Dionysian and messy. At heart, we're still Puritans. If you want to chug Jägermeister with your boobs hanging out, you'd best drive to Rhode Island.


 

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Swingers...
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 27, 2008 at 8:31 PM
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I would LOVE to talk to a reporter about the swinger lifestyle in the greater Boston area - boy, do I have some stories!!!
great article
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 28, 2008 at 10:06 AM
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we are one of those conservative and respected couples, married 20 years.. the same type of activity is alive and well in CT. The article was wel written and right on the money.....
plenty of places around
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 28, 2008 at 7:16 PM
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you really should have gone more north..NH has MUCH better parties...
my story
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM
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I don't agree with the thought of being middle aged and not having experienced the sexual freedom at a younger age. I am 26 and have had a very fulfilling sex life. I am now married with 2 children and a swinger. I don't like the feeling of sneaking and as a matter of fact if it weren't for people being so judgemental I would be very open with it. Most close people to me do know! My husband and I have a perfect relationship and my views are animals aren't monogomist, I am an animal, so lets have fun!!!
Discreetion!!!!!
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 1, 2008 at 3:54 AM
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Isn't descreetion a big part of swinging? So by inviting a reporter to a party and have them "observe" a party, does away with descreetion completely. Not only that. Why didn't the host and hostess tell the people that were in attendance? The hosts of the party are going to cause alot of problems. The reporter knows the address and anyone has access to the website and pictures of people in the lifestyle. Whoever was at the new years eve party should reevaluate their association with ss101. Not cool for throwing people underthe bus with out them knowing.
Hmmm
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 1, 2008 at 8:02 AM
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Isn't charging money to have sex (even at a party) considered prostitution, or "running a house of prostitution?" According to the law, it is.
Fairness
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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We have been involved in the lifestyle for a number of years. We would have to agree with the comment that swingers should be discreet and the reasons are obvious. This club has obviously broken a time honored tradition. We found it odd that on the one hand the articles describes swingers as headless while at the same time the article and the group are in no way discreet. While swinging may not the reporters cup of tea there is a condescending tone to the article although the descriptions are cute. We feel that this club is not representative of the clubs or people involved in the lifesyle in New England. This would be similar to going to a Miami Dolphins football game and saying their performance is representative of all the teams in the NFL. There is a reason reporters are not allowed to review swingers clubs and I just read it.
some on the money some not so much
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 1, 2008 at 6:31 PM
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In the "lifestyle" for almost 8 yrs. Contrary what was said there are "rules" for swinging. They can be found in a periodical written for swingers. As a straight woman, I've been quite amazed at how the "openminded" lifestyle treats single men. It seems to be the last bastion of discrimination. We have always attended a great no pressure party in NH - MA seems to be so puritanical. It's certainly not all it's cracked up to be. We've been mostly disappointed - and we are fit attractive 40 somethings.
The most Wonderful People
Posted by Lori | Mar. 1, 2008 at 8:44 PM
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I have a house in Tahoe which hosts Swinger's parties. The attendees are the most wonderful people, kind and respectful. Taking a donation for parties is not paying for sex. There is no promise of sex. Donations are used for maintainance of the house. I supply snacks, heat, fresh sheets, clean hot tub, and a well cleaned home. I cannot afford to have this high of a quality home without some assistance.
it did cause problems, apparently
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 1, 2008 at 10:38 PM
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the webpage sexyswingers101.net is not functional! they must have closed it after realizing that they just ended their careers of lifestlye moderators. I wonder if descriptions like this "her husband, Stu, a squat spark plug of a guy" helped attract attention? I'm sure the judges & cops mentioned as members are glad to have that advertised too
False reporting...
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM
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I have just received an email from the ss101 group , it clearly states that the author of this article is a member of ss101. I was shocked and upset to read this as I thought this article was supposed to be an objective and truthful view of the reporter's experience. Obviously we have all been very mislead! I feel that we all deserve a published apology from the author as I consider this to be an extremely deceptive form of advertisement for one group and not news or true reporting. Here is the cut and paste from ss101's Hostess Val: A Member of our SS101 group wrote an article about swinging, and mentioned the ss101.net website... ( which really does not give any info out, everyone must be screened before getting into the group & receiving directions). Some couples got a little freaked out over this... Sterling club also gave info for the article as well. It mentioned nothing about our members, or our location. I really do not think its a factor in anything at all. BUT, we
False reporting and bad example
Posted by BPG | Mar. 2, 2008 at 7:44 PM
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If this person is a member and the purpose of this entire article was as an advertisement, then I am not in the least bit shocked. Val and Stu are 2 of the worst representatives of what swingers are all about. They are both young, inexperienced, prejudiced and just plain not nice people at their core, they are nothing more than people who are in it for the money, and looking to get off, they don't embody the true soul of what it means to be a swinger, hopefully someone can write a true article about what swinging really is all about to help clear up the misconceptions about "the lifestyle"
Out of the adult closet!
Posted by Kim | Mar. 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM
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Thanks Boston Magazine, for printing another story of Bostonians (and locals) having sex. Yes, we do it. Yes, many of us are proud that we do it. Yes, the world needs to know. Thanks.
Lies
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 6:09 AM
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Why didn't the author state, "he or she", was a part of ss101. And the site did give out info. Such as upcoming events and a photo gallery. And screened by whom? Anyone and everyone was invited to the group. Yes Sterling gave an interview, but did not give info about where and when his parties are. The author also states, "he or she" tried to get access to other parties, but was denied. Kudos to BPG BPG Val and Stu, are 2 of the WORST representitives of "the lifestyle" in Mass.
TOO BAD
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 8:25 AM
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It really is TOO BAD that they let this reporter into their lives whether she was a member or not. We have been in the swinging lifestyle for 4 years and we have never had to worry about others knowing what we do. When you join a swingers group it states that they are DISCRETE. Thanks Sexy Swinger moderators for waking up alot of your couples. We know not to join your group. You are not in it for your members you are in it for the money and that really sucks to know the REAL TRUTH!!!!! Sexy Swingers moderators next time you decide on inviting someone that should not be there you will think about it first. TOO BAD!!!
C'mon ... everybody's doing it
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 9:37 AM
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I don't know much about ss101 but I do know swinging is alive, well and popular. To know this you only need to look at the 500 million dollar sale of AFF and the SwingFest 2008 convention in Florida
Get with the Program
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 11:16 AM
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New England is so conservative when it comes to sex it is incredible. If you were in any other city there is a sex shop, a book store, a club, newspaper everywhere you look. As Kim said....are we trying to pretend that people do not have sex? Sex please with a side of fries! Can you super size that? Perhaps if it sex were not relegated to the closet, instances in which it is out in the open would not be made to seem so immoral. Make one wonder if people have truly read anything about human history. Dialogue often promotes healthier dialogue and education. Silence breeds ignorance. In any event even Craigslist has a selection box for couples seeking couples. It is there business and not yours! If you have an issue then shut your eyes even tighter this way it does not exist.
Give me a break!!!!
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 1:10 PM
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If you swing, fine, but don't try and convince the non-swingers that there is actually a more refined way of swinging. It is totally about sex--indiscriminate sex. Again, consenting adults can do as they wish, but please, spare us the "woe is us, for we are not represented correctly" BS....you shouldn't feign misrepresentation in order to justify your entertainment choices. Call a spade a spade!
SS101 has always been bad news!
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM
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My husband and I have been in the lifestyle for years, and have had personal dealings with Val and Stu, and many of their friends. SS101 and sexyswingers.net are most definitely not what they claim to be. They are backstabbing, elitist jerks who aim to bash and hurt other parties. All they care about is money. I can only hope that this article serves to finally, once and for all, shut them down. They give a really bad name to the Boston swinging scene.
learn the rules, Val and Stu
Posted by Two Happy | Mar. 3, 2008 at 1:47 PM
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Some things that Val and Stu seem unable to ever learn: true discretion, honesty, kindness, and loyalty (to anything other than money). They are to sole reason that anything goes wrong with the lifestyle in the Boston area, and they need to be stopped. Too bad, Val and Stu....it seems the truth about you two is finally coming out. I bet you thought it would never happen.
more info in the comments than in the story
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 4:29 PM
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wow after reading the story i came back to read the comments i was surprised that val used her name and the groups info ...thinking to myself .. another reason not to go there ..... and then after reading the comments i can see that theres more info here in the comments than in the artical itself .. we have been to many clubs partys ect ...try them all and find one your happy with .llisten to what people say abotu other clubs and take it with a grain of salt when you hear multiple people say the same thing over and over . watch out .
Re: Gimme a Break
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 7:29 PM
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It is far far far from being about indiscriminate sex, which only goes to show that you are trying to talk about and explain something in which you have no real understanding of.
Well
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 8:17 PM
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We ran a party north of Massachusetts and for some reason, we had our names dragged through the mud by Stu (not sure how much his wife was involved), to the point of him calling OUR local police (I guess he knows people or has family up here)and having them harass us. I have nothing but contempt for SS101 because of this. What was the point? Were we competition? Were we talking bad about them? No, we were over a hundred miles away. So why the need to bash us or try to have us shut down? Simple greed and a need to call themselves elite. Well, they are not elite. Their members are kept in the dark by the people who run that group. They do nothing but tarnish swinging and they are some of the more prejudice people (not racially, but in every other way)I have ever come across. Stu has a god complex and thinks he is the all powerful swinger. I am honestly glad this happened to him and his cohorts. I never wish anything bad on anyone, and I know how hard it is to run a group and party, but
Well (part2)
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 3, 2008 at 8:32 PM
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I know how hard it is to run a group and party, but there are two ways to do it...with class, or without, and the people who run SS101 have no class. Ask around folks. Ask anyone who runs a party in New England and they have either been trashed or stabbed in the back or even had the police informed by Stu. That puts anyone who attends a party at risk. Imagine being filmed in a raid of a party and exposed to all your family, friends, co workers(you may even lose your job over it), just because Stu and SS101 wanted to be #1 and eliminate the competition. Imagine that. Good riddance to bad trash !!
misleading information
Posted by anoni | Mar. 3, 2008 at 8:32 PM
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Mohr & McPherson doesn't sell curtains
The story of the troll & the witch
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM
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1st of all, has anyone here left something in the icebox and it went bad? That rank smell when you throw it away is what comes to mind when I hear Stu & Val's names. From the day I met them years ago, I relaized he is swinging because his wife doesn't want to have sex with him, and he is in it for the same reason. Do the kids look like either of them? They are both repulsive, rude, aesthetically un-pleasing people. The only saving grace is that they are married to each other. I have spent some time reading the previous posts and agree with each and every one of them. If it has not happened to me directly, it has to a friend. Not sure what trash day in Salem, but glad to THEM on the curb!
We love the parties
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 1:19 PM
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We have been to several parties, and found that S&V's "screening process" to be awsome. Because They actually have a screening process, this makes the couples that do not "fit" unhappy. ( Just like the ones that have posted here). We have been to other parties that have mixed body types and ages, we prefer to party with couples that are just like us!. If all the others want to post here and say TONS of negative things about their party...whatever, We had the BEST time with that crowd.
DESCRET
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 2:56 PM
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I agree with most people,me and my wife of 2 kids are very much in love with each other,and i will never do it behind her back , so we both agreed to go to these clubs once or twice a year and have some safe ,descret fun, To bring in a reporter was very wrong,
Screening Process
Posted by David | Mar. 4, 2008 at 3:08 PM
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First I would like to point out that a couple of the postings made are posted by people who run or ran clubs in New England. Postings or open invitations to Yahoo groups, Craigslist, AOL chatrooms, and all out spam is not screening. Like the article they are also not discreet. Obvioulsy the reporter made it in without notice to other members. Excuse me if I missed something but they just outed the reporter who wrote the article. We are glad you enjoyed their parties! You obviously never had their venom pointed in your direction. Elitism only fluorishes when you have people willing to propogate the MYTH that they are elite. David Coresh, Jim Jones, and Adolph Hitler all had followers who sang their praises.
Mohr & McPherson DO sell curtains
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 4:29 PM
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I bought some there.
Mohr & McPherson DO sell curtains
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM
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I bought some there.
Get a life...
Posted by Lee | Mar. 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM
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Personally I loved the article. I enjoyed very much reading about the lifestyle that my wife and I have been a part of for the last couple of years. I think very highly of SS101 and the people who give us swingers a wonderful environment to be able to do our thing. These people are among the sweetest individuals that anyone could hope to get to know. They were responsible for giving the comfortable and welcoming start in this lifestyle when we were still very new to this thing. I've been acquainted with them for several years and have never seen a hint of vindictiveness in them. They have been among the most well meaning people of this lifestyle, always striving to improve their group so that all their members may enjoy and keep enjoying their ability to have a fun and comfortable environment to express themselves sexually. Sure no one is perfect and I’m sure some mistakes have been made along the way, but is this any reason to crucify them? I think not! Unfortunately this is
Come on
Posted by s | Mar. 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM
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Ok, so some of you may not like S+V, and some of you may or may not have very good reasons not to, or some of you may be mad at not being allowed into their parties, but the name calling has gotten out of hand. And please, do not mention people's KIDS or insult family members. That is just spiteful and not necessary. I think the best solution to all this is for everyone to just do whatever they want. But PLEASE, everyone, stop bashing each other. It make the entire lifestyle look bad. Forgive and forget. Maybe everyone made mistakes or was out of line, so let's just move on. SS101 can have their parties and everyone can leave them alone and everyone else can have their parties and SS101 can stop talking bad about them and trying to ruin them . Easy enough solution. Give it a try
Get a life...continued
Posted by Lee | Mar. 4, 2008 at 5:27 PM
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Unfortunately this is world which is made up all kinds of people, good and bad. And we surely have seen a fine representation of the bad in the number of nasty comments the have been levied on these good people. Sure, it’s easy to be nasty when you’re hiding behind anonymity. Surely these are people that are undeserving to be counted among all the incredible people we’ve come to know through SS101. Thank God SS101 has been able to screen out most of these idiots so they don’t pollute our evenings out. Hang tough SS101 and don’t be rattled by the mentally challenged low-life out there whose only happiness is to strive to try and make the lives of good people miserable. To all you unhappy low-life…GET A LIFE!!!
SS101 Sold Out for 5 Mins of Fame!
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 6:46 AM
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Val and Stu have definitely crossed a line here! Looks like now they are trying to cover up their poop with weak excuses! We are a young professional couple that were once involved with the SS101 parties but saw quickly how hypocritical Val and Stu were. Discretion means nothing to them. Stu is incapable of censoring himself and is a complete moron who's strings are pulled by his wife Val. Valerie is a manipulative opportunist that flip flops like a politician to suit the situation at hand. Then when caught with her foot in her mouth conveniently blames it on her idiot husband. Belittling him to everyone and using him as a scape goat for her wrong doings. They might be all about the money but between the two they don't even have the business sense to make any money! As the regulars know they are forever crying poor, practically begging money from friends daily. While most swinging groups within the lifestyle tolerate each other, with more than enough cliental to go around.
Can't anyone but me tell this written by same person?!?
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 6:23 PM
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I have to ask everyone that reads these posts, can't you see they are all written by same person? from sentence structures to use of same words, to wording around same idealisms? Anyone who knows the history of the local clubs, knows the history this person posting and slamming & the moderators SS101. The only outcome of this barrage of posting, is going to be the deterioration of the local swingers scene, which will hurt this idiot's own aspirations of furthering his own website and group, as well as all those people who might have been thinking of finally joining the lifestyle
SOS101
Posted by John | Mar. 4, 2008 at 6:45 PM
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Ship is sinking fast? When you lie and cheat it comes back to you in some way. All the stuff that you2 have done has cone back to you. I, guess karma does exist?
Swinging Lifestyle
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 4, 2008 at 6:32 PM
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The lifestyle is so alive!! My husband and I are considered a very attractive couple and have been invited to many different parties. We have experienced the swinger club scene as well. We have gone to SS101 parties, some totally hot and some not so hot...but we've had experiences like that at others too. I honestly can't believe all the bashing and ranting going on, regardless this is a small community and this lifestyle is supposed to be fun, hot, sexy and exciting. As for inviting a reporter into a party...not a smart move. We will still be partying and rockin out with our c**k out!
Sound Bites
Posted by David | Mar. 4, 2008 at 6:39 PM
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It seems that many of us have indeed been to your parties and have been members of your group. Have we missed this point in the comments? We have been receiving your emails for years and we can identify not only your writing style but as well your tendency to impersonate others. Awesome is misspelled and "BEST" is capitalized which are trade mark SS101. The posting "Get a Life" smacks of your PR director and confidant. You received the same amount of negativity when you posted to Craig’s. Postings which were flagged for removal. This would be one of the first times it has become an open forum one in which others can freely voice their opinion without fear of deletion. The masses can not be wrong. "Ask not for whom the Bell Tolls. The bell tolls for thee."
Swinging vs. polyamory
Posted by Alan | Mar. 5, 2008 at 9:00 AM
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I read the article and these comments from a different viewpoint: as a member of the area's polyamory community. (The one-line oversimplification: swinging is about sex, poly is about love). Which is not *nearly* as big and organized... something I'm a bit envious about. But this catfight reminds me why I avoid The Lifestyle. Poly Boston and Family Tree are so gentle, kind, and civilized by comparison. More on the poly-vs-swinging debate and divide: click here
What is wrong with you people
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 5, 2008 at 1:10 PM
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Although I found this article to be very detailed, I find it disturbing that this such behavior is glorified, whatever happened to morals and staying faithful to each other?
Morals
Posted by John | Mar. 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM
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Join a church and repress yourself further. That's why we have priests raping children.
You need a reality check Alan
Posted by Alan Needs | Mar. 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM
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Poly versus Swinger is basically the same as an Escort versus a Hooker. You can dress it up and and call it whatever kind of rosey posey sweey name you want, but it is still about sex when all is said and done. You can love people and love your friends, and even have a deep love for them, but it still comes down to sex being the difference between a friend versus part of a "poly" relationship. oh, and nice job spamming your own website... talk about wanting to be an attention whore and try to gain 5 minutes of fame...
Open your minds!
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 6, 2008 at 5:45 AM
COMMENT:
Step out of the box! We are the people next door with two kids and family. But... on the weekends we are sexy swingers!! We have been together 19 years. We both had our moments of going around the block in high school. But Hello! It is amazing to think of people being with the same person day in and day out. I will tell you from experince... this lifestyle has improved our communication and sex life! It has done nothing negative to our relationship. We haven't been to a party yet, but we do plan to. I was also surprised at the amount of couples in the lifestyle. But now I totally understand why.
See the light SS101er's!
Posted by Swinging | Mar. 6, 2008 at 9:44 AM
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We are former ss101er's, the grp has a HIGH turnover rate! The reporter is NOT a mbr!! She was on a radio station Monday as well as writing the article! She was knowingly INVITED by V&S to the party deceiving their grp mbr's! SS101 is crashing for more than just this! Yes SS101 has a great screening process BUT the DRAMA is NOT worth being a part of the group!! Most people standing behind them are newbies!! Most members don't last too long before they see through the smoke screen and move on!!
I hope this is the end........
Posted by No More | Mar. 6, 2008 at 10:10 AM
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I don't even know where to start. It really is a tragedy to have a group like SS101 representing the Lifestyle! The moderators trash talk each other, never mind what they say about some of their members and I've witnessed this first hand! For the most part they do not care about their members but the $$$$ they make off of a party. The were charging $40/cpl for a place they got FREE with nothing in return! NO BBW's or BBM in the group?? What is STU?? and a few of the other females in the group? I am not opposed to BBanyone's just wondering how their rules do not apply to all? So if you're in SS101 now and want to continue to defend, don't say you weren't warned when it happens to you! They've lost almost 20 couples this past week and it's with GOOD reason! Knowingly INVITING a reporter to your party is an absolute MINDLESS thing to do!! I thought discretion was valued???
Bad citizens...
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 6, 2008 at 10:30 AM
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Val and Stu are obviously bad citizens in the Swinging community as the feeding frenzy surrounding their demise surmounts. Over the years they have dropped a dime on many competitors just to become the largest in the area. Without screening or conscious this group has been around. Now there is turmoil and everyone is out for blood. Yes this will impact the local swinging scene. Having people who care about people from something other then a head count perspective is warranted and long overdue. Many smaller groups do real screening, and people are concerned more about health related issues then ever before. Seeing Val and stu go away can only help the community as a whole.
Sorry
Posted by S & G | Mar. 6, 2008 at 11:06 AM
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Well Stu we knew it was bound to happen to you. Your like a girl you create so much DRAMA between couples and other groups. I knew that all the bad mouthing that you did about other swingers groups would catch up to you. We did have fun at some parties, but at others wondered where some of these couples came from. We are a happly married couple with children and we are both VERY SEXY. When we joined the group and went to our first party we wondered where the other sexy couples were. As time passed we starting seeing some but not many. Maybe you should have changed your name to swingers.com. We wish you good luck, but you know you SCREWED up when you invited the reporter!!!!!
Childish
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM
COMMENT:
We are a Older Couple and Former Members Of SS101. We met V & S Way back at 2 parties That are now Closed from Posts like these. When We were Members We Had a great time at Their Parties and Loved the Crowd They Had. They were Great Hosts and People and I disagree with Whats is being said about Them. These Posts are childish and Untrue. As we are past the age Limit of the group we have not been to a Event in Over a year. But respect the rules They have set. There is a Place for everyone and No matter who you are. Dont Belive everything you read especially The Posts here Go find out for yourself.
I think NOT!!!!
Posted by To The Poster | Mar. 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM
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You may be a FORMER member but most of these posts are coming from RECENT members and are speaking of OUR actual encounters!!! Count the negative posts as opposed to the positive posts....Which are there more of??? NEGATIVE!!! If that many are saying the same thing do you think were all just making it up for lack of nothing better to do?? We are trying to WARN others! It is not because of the people who post but for the ones who invited a REPORTER to invade the privacy of their members without their knowledge. THAT is the action that started all this!!!
kind of funny
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 7, 2008 at 5:12 AM
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this WAS one of the better groups in Boston - they started to suck when they left Boston. Stu told me that I know the reporter, but I've never seen her before. I was TOTALLY sick of the drama they created over-n-over again. Bringing in a reporter was the last straw. They got caught up in the trip, and were proud of what they were doing (or they wouldn't have used their real names or advertised). I've seen Stu's e-mails reprimanding members & heard him take members aside during parties. Drama Queen.
Bad citizens part deux...
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 7, 2008 at 7:49 AM
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Well they are hunkered down for sure. There have been rumors to their retirement? The Swingers Community again will be a much better place if that is indeed the case.
poly vs swinger
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 8, 2008 at 11:26 AM
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all the poly people I know have been sci-fi or goth fans, many of the men are bi, and they don't play with their partners - they have a seperate sexual relationship with someone who isn't their spouse. I like watching my man with other women - it's about me & him, I prefer lifestyle to poly any day.
FOOLS
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 8, 2008 at 9:14 PM
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ALL OF YOU PLEASE LEARN TO SPELL DISCRETION AND DISCRETE, THEN LOVE AND RESPECT AND GET SOME HAPPINESS FROM THE ONE NEXT TO YOU. DO ANY OF YOU THINK OF YOUR CHILDREN OR JUST OF YOUR SELFISH EVENTUALLY DRIED UP SEXUAL SATISFACTION? WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE, TOTAL PIGS?
Who's the FOOL?!?!?
Posted by I DON'T | Mar. 9, 2008 at 4:40 PM
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MOST of us did spell correctly so you need not address everyone with your petty nonsense! I suppose you've never misspelled a word before. Maybe you should try avoiding run on sentences if your going to preach! I think I can speak on behalf of MOST if not ALL of us when I say that our sexual satisfaction just keeps getting better!! We have love and respect for our partners. When you know nothing about the dynamics of swinging other than your preconceived notions you should keep your rude opinions to yourself!! Obviously this article and/or the comments DO NOT pertain to you! So, BUTT OUT!!Maybe you're the one with the DRIED UP, STALE sex life and that's why you need to bitch about something that is not of your concern! Oh please, oh please I hope I have not misspelled anything! I wouldn't want some DUMB ASS with nothing better to do analyzing and commenting! HA HA HA ~ PAH~LEASE!!! (oh that was intentional!) Wow look at all the big words I know how to spell! ROCK ON FELLOW S
The Children?
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 9, 2008 at 8:51 PM
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What do the children have to do with any of this? What does 2 consenting adults getting together to do something with 1, 2, 3, or 10 other consulting adults have to do with children? Swinging and the lifestyle has nothing to do with a good or bad environment to raise children. IF 2 parents go out for a night, what does it matter if they leave kids with a babysitter and go to a dinner and movie, or they go meet up with another couple and have sex? Last time I checked, parents don't involve their kids in their sex lives.
I Agree with the Fool comment to a certain extent
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 9, 2008 at 9:19 PM
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Are you all nuts? Of course, the children should be considered. What do you mean you leave them with a babysitter and then go have sex with a bunch of random people. Is that what you will want for them? This is our future, a bunch of sexed-crazed maniacs? What about diseases passed on through sex? Are we going back to the 1800's with all its venereal woes? Have any of you ever suffered from (the now over 100) STD infections and are all of you & your partners clear of HIV? Do you know what an STD is? Who cares about the spelling, but the Fool writer is correct, watch your backs, you are all in for a rude awakening. One day it will dawn on you that you are just having sex for sex sake and a bunch of yucks. What is that? One day you will be a in bed on your back as a swinger and the next day you will on your back in your coffin dead from it. Have fun.
I am not seeing the connection to kids
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM
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What is the difference between leaving the children with a babysitter and going to dinner and the movies versus a swinger party? As far as the STD aspect, honestly, swingers are probably more astute and understandable about STD/VDs than any other group of people out there. The vast majority of them are tested regularly, as well as practice safe sex practices while engaged in the activities at a party. A vast majority of swingers are actually more open about sexuality than non-swingers who seem to view sex as evil unless you are married to your partnet, by being more open they often have an open dialogue with their children and are able to better educate their children about sex, safe sex practices, and what the impact personal actions can have on their lives. Your posts about the children and STDs speak of nothing except for an ignorant, prejudiced viewpoint.
Swinging, Kids, and STD's
Posted by Deliciously | Mar. 9, 2008 at 9:43 PM
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Several comments to make 1- How is leaving my kids alone with a babysitter for 4 hours to go have sex any different from leaving my kids home with a sitter for 4 hours to have dinner and go see a movie? It's no different to them. 2-They're called condoms. They stop the spread of disease. Look into them. 3-It's called a full STD screen. Your insurance covers it. You just have to grow a pair and ask your dr. for one every year. In general swingers are way better at safer sex than your average single twenty-something. 3-One of my biggest concerns about the issue was the author's assertion that there are "no rules" in swinging. Most couples have many rules about with whom, where, and how they swing. Most clubs and parties have a series of rules. Beyond that, there are the dozens of unspoken rules about the appropriate way to go about the lifestyle. If/when you break them-word spreads and you can easily become blacklisted.
Pah Lease
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM
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Oh you are so cool! Good luck in your "run on" life (not that you'd no one if you saw it) diseased ridden swinging life.
This is not supposed to be a debate!
Posted by Can we get back | Mar. 10, 2008 at 2:59 PM
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I thought this was for comments on the article?? Not a debate on your views of swinging! Go to another forum for that, I'm sure there are plenty out there!
this too shall pass...
Posted by LiveFree | Mar. 11, 2008 at 8:05 PM
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the show will roll on and swinging will continue to grow in popularity (IMO). It's just plain funny and sad at the same time that these two would invite a reporter into a party - totally violates any sense of fiduciary responsibility; funny how such bumbling fools could come to run a reasonably popular party, lol - goes to show ya - the bold inherit the world - doesn't take a lot of smarts; just actual raw initiative! Never the less, this whole thing will pass as people listen up to their inner BIOS and continue to PARTY ON :-)!!!!!!!!!
Screening
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 12, 2008 at 7:05 AM
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STD screening should be done in these groups. A person or couple expecting to swing should have a copy of their STD medical history with them to gain entrance period. If you are going to Party like a porn star you better take responsibility and precautions like one. Yes Condoms are smart but also getting another person/persons medical history is comforting also. You don't want to spread HPV or any other virus around to your so called friends. I know first hand that I was never asked for screening of any kind and perhaps thats because I am a single Bi Female.
STD testing
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 12, 2008 at 9:31 AM
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Having paper proof wouldn't do much - someone could have raw sex on the way to a party or on the way home from picking up the report from the doctor and get infected. Condoms are essential, and every party/group I've been to requires condom use, and every lifestyle person I've met uses condoms without question or fail, even on sextoys sometimes. Condoms are better protection than a piece of paper from a doctor.
swingers
Posted by katie | Mar. 16, 2008 at 6:59 AM
COMMENT:
click here is the primary way my husband and I meet likeminded "friends with benefits." There's no uncomfortable wondering if you ought to approach someone, you already know upfront when you meet them, and it is definitely worth the extra cost of becoming silver/gold imo, so you can exchange notes or pics before meeting and make sure its a good fit. My hubby is str8 and I am bi and we have had no problem finding partners on online4love.com. We've had fun sex with lots of single men, single women and full swap couples that we met on O4L. And yes, I'm real, and no, I don't work for O4L or think they're perfect (they can be pricey and they goober up email sometimes,) but I think they're the best thing going by far for meeting other people who just want to have sex without strings!
Well well
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM
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I have to wonder why Boston magazine would waste their time about such a sleazy past time. Maybe I am a tad old fashioned but I find this a filthy past time. They did not even mention the fear of STD, AIDS etc in the article. I mean I would rather just cheat on a husband or wife without having to view the act or get involved. Shame on you Boston Magazine. To all of you opposed to my opinions this is a free country. I am entitled to my own opinion
Well well
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM
COMMENT:
I have to wonder why Boston magazine would waste their time about such a sleazy past time. Maybe I am a tad old fashioned but I find this a filthy past time. They did not even mention the fear of STD, AIDS etc in the article. I mean I would rather just cheat on a husband or wife without having to view the act or get involved. Shame on you Boston Magazine. To all of you opposed to my opinions this is a free country. I am entitled to my own opinion
Sleazy......is as Sleazy does
Posted by They did it | Mar. 27, 2008 at 10:29 AM
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While Boston Magazine is a supermarket publication....they can not medle into the personal lives of each writer they employ. That said, the person who wrote this article did it as a publicity stunt to try and use the magazine as free advertising for a couple who was trying to take their swinger party mainstream. And by the looks of it, the bomb went off in their faces. Not because of the article so much as their unpopular way of treating people. Just as the article was a scam, so are the couple.
100 Corporate place Peabody, MA
Posted by Anonymous | Apr. 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM
COMMENT:
The secret location is no longer secret. So what?
what does one have to do...
Posted by sue | May. 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM
COMMENT:
...to join this group? the sexyswinger101 webpage isn't working.

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