The Real Face of Terror: Behind the Scenes Photos of the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Manhunt

In response to the controversial Rolling Stone cover, new photos of Tsarnaev’s capture emerge.

By | Boston Daily |
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A sniper trains his bead on Tsarnaev. (All photos by Sean Murphy)

The Rolling Stone cover featuring the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has, of course, set off a firestorm of controversy across the country. Critics believe that the cover glamorizes Tsarnaev, depicting him as a kind of rock ‘n roll outlaw rather than a terrorist who has been charged with killing four people and seriously wounding hundreds of others.

Sgt. Sean Murphy, a tactical photographer with the Massachusetts State Police who has photographed the funerals of many officers killed in the line of duty, is furious with the magazine. Murphy, who also acts a liaison to the families of fallen officers, is so angered by the cover—which he says is both dangerous and insulting to the victims of the bombings—that he feels the need to counter the message that it conveys.

We all remember the day of the manhunt, when Governor Patrick and law enforcement officials decided, in essence, to shut Boston down. Throughout it all, Murphy, alone in his assignment behind police lines, was capturing images of the day’s events—the high-level conferences, the mobilization of law enforcement, and the dramatic capture. Because the whole thing was televised live, everyone knows that the day ended with a wounded Tsarnaev being taken into custody. What few people have seen, because Murphy’s photos from that day have never been made public before, is the condition Tsarnaev was in at the time of his capture—and, indeed, exactly how he was captured. Murphy wants the world to know that the Tsarnaev in the photos he took that night—defeated and barely alive, with the red dots of sniper rifles lighting up his forehead—is the real face of terrorism, not the handsome, confident young man shown on the magazine cover. Following are a number of his photos from that day. A more complete collection will appear in our September issue.

Here, in his own words, Murphy shares his thoughts on the Rolling Stone cover. He stresses that he is speaking strictly for himself and not as a representative of the Massachusetts State Police:

“As a professional law-enforcement officer of 25 years, I believe that the image that was portrayed by Rolling Stone magazine was an insult to any person who has every worn a uniform of any color or any police organization or military branch, and the family members who have ever lost a loved one serving in the line of duty. The truth is that glamorizing the face of terror is not just insulting to the family members of those killed in the line of duty, it also could be an incentive to those who may be unstable to do something to get their face on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.

“I hope that the people who see these images will know that this was real. It was as real as it gets. This may have played out as a television show, but this was not a television show. Officer Dick Donohue almost gave his life. Officer Sean Collier did give his life. These were real people, with real lives, with real families. And to have this cover dropped into Boston was hurtful to their memories and their families. I know from first-hand conversations that this Rolling Stone cover has kept many of them up—again. It’s irritated the wounds that will never heal—again. There is nothing glamorous in bringing more pain to a grieving family.

“Photography is very simple, it’s very basic. It brings us back to the cave. An image like this on the cover of Rolling Stone, we see it instantly as being wrong. What Rolling Stone did was wrong. This guy is evil. This is the real Boston bomber. Not someone fluffed and buffed for the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.”

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Tsarnaev’s image distributed to troopers at roll call.

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Federal, state, and local officials strategize in mobile state police command post.

Mayor Menino is briefed by State Police Col. Timothy Alben, Governor Patrick, FBI Special Agent Richard DeLauriers, and BPD Superintendent Ed Davis.

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The state police tactical response vehicle arrives in Watertown.

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Law enforcement officials converge on the boat where Tsarnaev is hiding.

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State troopers plan final assault on the boat.

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State troopers at the scene in Watertown.

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Law enforcement at the scene in Watertown.

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A sniper’s view of the boat.

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Tsarnaev emerges from the boat.

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Tsarnaev on the boat.

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Tactical EMTs attend to Tsarnaev.

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Medical personnel prepare to put Tsarnaev into an ambulance.

  • http://boatloadofcrap.blogspot.com/ Yg_Bluig

    Isn’t the photo the trooper at the roll call is holding the same one of the fluffed and buffed Tsarnaev that was used on the Rolling Stone cover?

    • Mark_Peterson

      No, it’s not.

  • thomas Jr.

    Mad props to the great JOURNALIST who took these photos. Freedom of expression at it’s finest

    • emerald98

      hear hear. and they should show what he really looks like today, not a rock star in the least. these girls should use their heads and know that he had bombs in his car, so strange that the Boston Bomber and he this guy had the same explosives. these girls are so stuck on the video of him not putting down the bag that they do not connect the shoot out with the bombing ….this should prove something to them. but again, some people just think he is so nice and cute that he couldn’t kill others.

      • Anjali

        According to people inside the court room, he looks pretty much the same. I heard a CNN correspondent say he was taller in person and looked younger than 19…but the same. A picture of him now probably wouldn’t help.

        • emerald98

          According to my own eyes, he does not look like this anymore. I was sitting right behind his sisters, and do I need to say what I saw. he kept looking to his sisters so I got to see face over several times, and him walking in, etc…and he used an accent that he never had before. He has nerve damage to the left side of his face, and wired jaw, which he cannot smile without moving to the right side, he drools, and his left eye is sorta like Stallone, can’t hear out of left ear….I thought he looked like he was on some kind of meds. His face did not look symmetrical, uneven so to speak. And it’s been three months so you would think he would be better by now. Even one of his wrestling friends said he was not he same person, the way he moved and looked. Quote. So I meant that this cover was his old self, a lot has happened to him physically and mentally over these months. Being taller is not even an issue. This my opinion of course, and many others. But to go even deeper into his body language as one of his friends said, was strange, that accent was either nerves or something much deeper, like an Anti-American stance, or throwing off his old self to something different, his life is changed. But that accent was choice he made, most people that heard it could not believe it, because he never had one before.

          • Hellsbells

            ?? accent? What are you talking about? Do you mean he was speaking in a language you are unfamiliar with? Re: you’d think he’d be better by now- I had ankle surgery in January and I am still not totally recovered, much less having been shot. He’s a criminal who was able to commit a heinous crime. He’s also a very vulnerable young man, and he was before the shooting. We can’t undo what he did- we can focus on helping vulnerable people on the fringes of our societies.

          • Ummah Gummah

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            Oh the vuuulneeeraaable terrorist.. CRY ME A RIVER.

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          • Troy To You

            Sounds like he meant ‘accent’… Why do you question? It’s written as if the person has actually been in the room with him. have you been in the room with him? The vulnerable young man killed 4 people, including a child. What happens to him, he brought on himself…

          • emerald98

            I am saying cute cover boy is no longer, his life is changed forever. It’s not mean or without compassion, it is a fact and reality. Well he did have gut shot wounds and arms, yet he was walking fine, so what is problem about the fact that his face is messed up, even plastic surgery heels in 6 weeks! He was speaking English with a Russian/Chechen accent, something none of his friends ever heard, people that knew him for years. I am sure there are few reasons for this, probably the biggest is that he was not going to speak, his lawyer tried to enter his pleas for all counts in one not-guilty, but the judge insisted he speak and answer the charges himself. Nerves, for show or psychological. Your right he was a young man, not a kid, but young guy who made a terrible, terrible decision, regardless if he thought he was helping other Muslims or not. And shooting innocent people, who are a small part of any vote that would influence our government over their (him and his brothers) grievances. And Martin was 8, well he couldn’t vote at all. So why kill him (you know the argument of Democracy and ALL the people in the U..S vote for drones, etc., and that is why they kill innocent random people. Terrorism, The US does awful things, and somehow killing innocent people helps change all this. because every single American votes for it, that is belief…why not go to the president with these attacks, he is the one that do could something and fast?)In fact, there are young guys and women that have worse problems than he had – yet none of them kill or plant bombs. By all accounts his friends and family said he showed no sighs of needing help. He was acting like Jahar. How was anyone to help him when clearly he looked like a normal guy that seemed happy. How are the American people suppose to help people we don’t even know have a problem? We can find justifications for a whole host of issues in this world, but most don’t do something so extreme for fear of losing our lives and freedom. This article did little to answer his real motives, it’s only speculation that his life sucked so he turned to Islam, the most extreme interpretation of it to end his own life and others. Do I feel badly that his parents divorced, he had pay his own way to school, (me too) and didn’t have a lot of money – yes, but that is not new to other young people in this world. He is not the only one with crappy circumstances. Yet you don’t see them planting bombs out of frustration over their lives,in fact if that was the reason. It’s too bad, he was young and many of his issues would have passed, but when you add a religious ideology to people, there is not much people one can do to help them (just read his twitter account) when they read such stuff on the internet and have dominate strong brother as his, that he looked up to, someone that appeared to know more about Islam and helped guide him in his decision. But that is not defense. But was he really a devout Muslim, all the smoking (selling weed), drinking and partying. nor did he pray 5 times a day, doesn’t look like he was following Muslim values too much, yet none of his own behaviors mattered, only that killing could be justified, and if you believe what he wrote, he thought it could. It’s pretty clear that that both believed they would be martyrs, and they would die in this event, I mean when you shoot a cop and shoot at more and throw bombs, there is that idea that you are going to be killed. So when you imply I have no compassion for young people, you are severely and utterly wrong. I feel for him to a point that I don’t wish the death penalty for him, but letting him go is not an option either. It just seems a waste of good life, a precious life – the victims and his. Instead of spending so much time going on how great he was, this article left out critical issues on how complex and hidden people are, and these friends that adored him so much, could have been standing at the finish line or running, and that would have mattered little – evil and goodness live in all people, but most people don’t act on the evil in ways of Terrorism and Murder. No one could have helped him when they saw no signs, except the mother, she saw signs but accepted Jihad. Call her and complain, she is after all the mother, and she will say the same thing, he was an angel, he no problems. This article wrote a fluffy little piece that matched the cover to sell to younger readers. Don’t you wonder why James Holmes is not on the cover, he is young and committed murder too, but the girls don’t like him so much. Not cute enough, perhaps. So quit making us feel like we failed him and that is why he committed Terrorism. Plus, tons of other immigrants find it offensive as they work so hard for a life in this country and he just throws it away.

    • ClarkKent

      I think a better journalist wouldn’t have waited four months to add these obviously important pictures to the public record.

    • PeopleDontCareAsMuchAsTheySay

      He’s not a journalist. He’s an idiot cop who doesn’t understand journalism. What the Boston police force did to capture this kid was amazing. However, for every kind–hearted,, hard-working policeman, there are 100 punks like this guy who PRAY for something like this to happen so they don’t have to be adult baby-sitters.

      • PreachJohn

        ‘ídiot cop’—It’s you who doesn’t understand journalism.
        He’s been doing this for 45 yrs. Allow him some credit as the gifted communicator he obviously is. Or are you even able to do that?
        Because he sure countered Rolling Stone’s sophistic stupidity for me, and countless others. Bulls eye!

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  • emerald98

    wow, did he ever counter this image.

  • scarybearsalesman

    that cop is an asshole. its a photo of the suspect. it doesnt glamorize terrorism. get a grip, drama queen.

    • arne

      it does glamorize

      • Sallynotadude

        How, his photo is everywhere anyway. If it was going to happen then it already has. Also, it is just useless to try and prevent stupid people from being stupid. Those morons that defend this kid at his trial (The ones outside with signs) will always exist for anything.

      • nightmoth

        Jeez–it’s the same photo we’ve seen a dozen times in all the newspapers.

    • Mollyheart

      you, sales ass wipe are the drama queen!

    • Damien Alvarado

      you are a piece of sh*t.

    • Briannabelle19

      It is giving that little pile of shit everything he and his brother wanted. To be known.

      • FunkTron

        Too damn late for that. They are already known. Now it’s time to discuss the matter rationally and try to get to the bottom of “why”. These guys already grabbed the attention of the world, putting his picture on a magazine for a serious news article isn’t going to further their goals any more than you peeing in the ocean will raise the tides.

  • Juan

    That cover on Rolling Stone isn’t meant to glamorize the guy. It’s meant to show that the suspect didn’t fit the expectations that people had of the potential bomber.

    Trying to paint the world as if every person responsible for something heinous has to look a certain way is ridiculous.

    • sanfordandsons

      The suspect didn’t fit the xpectations of a potential bomber? What are those expectations there Juan? Do you have an exact MO of a bomber? It does glamorize the dirtbag no matter what you say. Placing his picture on any magazine at this point of the investigation is trying to form opinions in peoples minds. It has apparently worked for you.

      • Sallynotadude

        He doesn’t have to, he is speaking about the public at large, they are the ones who think a bomber looks a certain way.

        • Mollyheart

          … and you know that how? The cover was buffed up airbrushed and softened with toner to make him look much more attractive than he is.

          Waiting for your reference that states how the public perceives the look of a bomber… tick, tick, tick…

          • Sallynotadude

            Are you new? The public has a lot of feelings and opinions. Is this like the first time someone has invoked the public for you?

          • Joe Gordon

            “The cover was buffed up airbrushed and softened with toner to make him look much more attractive than he is.”

            An out and out bullshit lie.

            NOTHING WAS DONE TO THE PHOTO you lying filth.

          • Hegetarian

            He looks pretty unkempt.

          • FunkTron

            What an absurd comment. To pretend you know that a group of well-respected journalists would alter the cover photo for the purpose you claim is just outrageous. You provide some proof, and we’ll have something to talk about. Until then, it’s just crazy tinfoil hat crap.

    • carla5731

      He is young, male, an adherent of Islam and born outside the US. He fits the “expectations” to a T.

      • Vince Chihak

        Just like Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Seung-Hui Cho (VT shooter), Columbine dudes, Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh…etc amirite?

        • Robert177

          Nah, more like the dozen 9-11 hijackers, Bin Laden, KSM, the Ft Hood shooter, and the hundreds of guys Obama has killed with drones.

          • stoneynhvt

            Speaking of magazine covers and Bin Laden, on how many covers did Bin Laden appear?

          • ugh

            Bill Ayers has been on lots of covers.

        • carla5731

          Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Seung-Hui Cho and Columbine dudes were not terrorists. However, all of them fit the first two categories of being young and male.

          What about Nidal Hasan, Faisal Shahzad, Jose Pimentel, Ahmed Ferhani, Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis, Raees Alam Qazi and Sheheryar Alam Qazi, Jesse Morton, Mohamed Alessa and Carlos Almonte, Abdel Hameed Shehadeh.

          I was responding to another comment that said the “suspect didn’t fit the expectations that people had of the potential bomber.” There’s nothing about Tsarnaev that surprised me. If we suddenly see a rash of menopausal women, who are Methodists and born and raised in the Midwest, terrorizing people with bomb plots, then I’ll be surprised.

          • ME-B

            they weren’t terrorists? really? what’s the definition of a terrorist? If you say they weren’t terrorists, then what were they?

          • LoveIsLouder85

            Yes, actually, Lanza, Holmes, Cho, Harris, AND Klebold actually were terrorists. How were they not?

        • ugh

          You forgot Obama’s pal Bill Ayers. You know, the one that bombed the Capitol and killed people? Funny how you lefty libs never bring that up.

          • runnerbp

            Bill Ayers never killed anyone. The bombs could have killed someone but their intent was to destroy government property. This is slightly refuted by the bomb that blew up 3 weather underground members which was intended to be set off at a military dance where people were likely to be killed. He certainly has questionable character, but a politician interacts with many people by suggesting he’s a “pal”. That’s really just stupid.

          • steelers01

            And the liberal pukes in Chicago make him a professor. Liberalism is truly a mental disease that needs to be eradicated like the cancer that it is in America.

      • Anjali

        If that’s the case, then why aren’t there a half a billion terrorists? Or have you been lead to believe there really are that many, oh media!! Good thing we have our quasi-military police state to protect us.

        • Robert177

          Where in the world do you come up with half billion? Look, there are around a billion Muslims in the world. If 1% of them were either terrorists or helped support terrorism(financially, etc), that would mean 10 MILLION Muslims, worldwide, were involved in terror. This “10 Million” is likely close to accurate.

          • kvural

            Where in the world do you come up with 1%? What if it’s 0.001%? It was an ass-pull when Steven Crowder said it, and it’s an ass-pull when you’re saying it.

          • runnerbp

            Rob, there’s about 1.5 Billion Muslims and 2.1 Billion Christians. Actually I’m more worried about nearly half of Americans (Christians too I presume) who believe the Earth is around Ten Thousand years old. That means nearly half of all Americans live in a fantasy world. That’s scary.

          • steelers01

            Funny, here I am worried how I am going to keep paying for the ever increasing liberal entitlements to the worthless. Of course as long as they keep voting straight democrat, the endless freebies will just keep coming.

        • carla5731

          You missed the point entirely. I was responding to a comment that said the “suspect didn’t fit the expectations that people had of the potential bomber.” There’s nothing about Tsarnaev’s profile that surprised me, starting with the fact that he’s young and male. That doesn’t mean every young male will commit a heinous violent act; what it means is that I would’ve been shocked if the Boston bombers were two menopausal Methodists from Dubuque, Iowa.

    • timtedtomtod

      But are you aware that he already has a cult following on the internet of of ‘fans’ swapping cute pics of him? I believe that that we should see these pictures if we want to truly get an understanding of his life, but using this picture on the cover is in extremely poor taste, not only in representation of the acts behind the article, but in respect to the victims.

      • Hegetarian

        Yeah, and Yigal Amir, the extremist Israeli who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin, was getting marriage proposals in jail. You can’t judge a nation by the creepiest among them.

      • FunkTron

        That is unavoidable. The world has people who are going to do ridiculously crazy stuff no matter what Rolling Stone puts on the cover. Those people were sharing pictures before this cover came out, and the people inclined to do so are going to do so no matter how we cover the situation

  • Aaron K Kraus

    If your objection is that the cover photo glamorizes Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and presents him as an enticing role model to young readers because of his looks then you’re rightly concerned about something that has nothing to do with Rolling Stone.

    If your objection is that the cover photo humanizes Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and presents him as a multi-demensional — even sympathetic — figure, well you have just confronted one of humanity’s starkest truths: that we are all humans, endowed with a tremendous capacity for both evil and empathy. Again, your concern has nothing to do with Rolling Stone.

    If your objection is that the cover photo of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev disrespects the victims of his alleged crimes because it focuses on the criminal rather than the crimes then you’re arguing for such a narrow view of journalism and journalistic priorities that the end product would probably do little to educate, enlighten, and engage readers.

    If your objection is that Rolling Stone’s intention is to drive sales with sensational cover photos, well, yeah.

    Then again, see the photos above, linked online, to drive traffic.

    • suzeiki

      Well said. Thank you.

      • Luis S

        Post that picture, but not on Rolling Stones……..

        • Thomos Smith Ward

          THANK YOU. Exactly. Christ, people are thick.

          That cover has almost explicitly been entertainers in the past. Therefore, this is the most blatantly obvious use of this event for profit that I have yet seen. When I see other media outlets being so blatant about using murder for profit, I will be sure to criticize them as well.

    • Sallynotadude

      You are the reason comment voting was invented.

      • Munitor

        You’re all so ingenuous. Tsarnaev could be anyone and anything but never having anything to do with this ‘Boston Attack’. Think on:

        1. He and others chased and killed were and will always be only Suspects due to point 2;

        2. What kind of real convincing evidence has been shown that correlates Tsarnaev with the attack.

        3. What is the catch threatening a bunch of people on an event like this?
        Just doesn’t make sense to a terrorist mind, it would be like throwing
        a rock to the air.

        4. A few days ago a black young admitted have perpetrated the attacks without help of anyone, and police ‘showed him clemence and only charged him with prison’ No shooting, no Killings, no ‘Drama’.

        5. The reason behind all of this was to turn the malleable public attention of a whole country latent to enter into a Collective Hysteria stadium due the constant Media allusion about a ‘North Korea Nuclear Threat’, backed up by point 4.

        6. People believe everything Media just says.

        7. Govts always let people know exactly what they want them to know as to think.

        8. I’m sure Tsarnaev is another martyr of US stupidity or whatever one says it.

        9. How would anyone react under knowledge of idiotic gunmen coming after you with deadly force? That’s why he run and hid.

        10. US Police MOST TIMES are visceral idiots driven by public opinion, they react without thinking and footage shown is just evidence against them and authorities. That’s why photographer was rested: Since Photographs puclicized evidence they attack civilians being only suspects, and they did killed one of them, being only a Suspect, no one yet proven Guilty.

        • TheDeuce

          People like you are the reason we need police. And all your ranting, irrational (What you think is “logic”) premises begin from the assumption that he is innocent, regardless of whether he actually did it or not. Equally as ludicrous a premise from which to begin. I’m so thankful that you are not in any position of leadership or power, and never will be. Live well.

          • Joseph Boyd

            The premise being “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” comes to mind.

          • Dan Meyer

            Kinda like George Zimmerman, right?

          • JET

            Zimmerman had nothing to do with bombing…But ask Al Sharpton…He thinks that he is guilty of all evil…..

          • Sebastian Schmid

            How is that even comparable? Zimmerman may not have been found guilty. But the main reason for this is a foolish law that basically allows any Florida citizen to gun down a guy who is superior in a fist fight. In other parts of the world or even in other states this would have been a serious crime – maybe not a 2nd degree murder but some kind of felony. If we allow this to happen, basically anybody can start a fight with someone, provoke to be attacked and then use a gun to end it for good.
            That has nothing to do with a terrorist who killed and injured countless innocent people and than decided to run and shoot at policemen who were trying to take him into custody. If he is so innocent, why did he not get a lawyer and turned himself in immediately once his face surfaced on the media like any sane person would have done. Hiding, car jacking shooting at the police: yeah sure. That is what innocent people do *sarcasm off*

          • roberted

            So, if someone is being beaten in a fist fight or say, having their head bashed against a concrete sidewalk after just having their nose broken and they have a gun, they should not use it and just say to themselves, “No, they are just going to hurt me, but they don’t want to kill me ?”

            I don’t think so. The idea that if someone is superior in a fight the other person must just accept the beating as if they know when it’s going to stop is…..nuts.

          • Sebastian Schmid

            Maybe. Or maybe it is nuts to wait until your head gets smashed to the ground (if this did truly happen is at least not a certainty) in the first place. I mean he could have passed out during the process. Why did he not use his gun to give a warning shot (before taking a beating). That is what happens when untrained, non-professionals get their hands on deadly weapons. Experience tells me there are many ways to get out of a threatening situation – shooting someone should only be the very last resort. How can you say this applies to the Zimmerman situation. I just think it is disturbing that ending someones life – especially an unarmed persons – is taken so lightly by many.

          • GunnerC

            Warning shot? How do you tell a warning shot from a real one? Where will that warning shot land? Warning shots are irresponsible. Don’t fire a weapon unless it is pointed at the target you want to kill.

          • sdslezak

            I think that’s his point… Look at the slipery slope that the state of Florida is going down relating to this law. I wonder, do you think that the jurors aquited based on Zimmerman’s injuries? What would have happened if he didn’t have a broken nose, or a small laceration in his head? How could he have proved self defense then?

          • Steven

            Zimmerman’s defense did not use the “Stand Your Ground” statute (yet). It used common self defense which is the same or similar in every other state. On that subject, 21 other states also have a “Stand Your Ground” law.

            I say they haven’t used that law “yet” because one of its provisions is to provide immunity from all civil actions and further requires anyone filing civil actions to pay all the expenses of defending against it. (FSA 766 et seq)

          • Sebastian Schmid

            Thanks for the insight concerning immunity in civil actions. I did not know that

          • JonaD

            BS, that is a crazy idealistic fantasy notion!! The real premise is ‘charged with a crime’, and it is the role of the court to ferret out the truth via an adversarial process. THAT’S WHAT IS…

          • Curtis

            Joseph you are a moron I would kick your ass if I knew where you lived. Actually please tell me and I’m on the first flight.

          • Ralfine

            They wouldn’t let you on a plane after you insulted one of your TSA girls.

          • estragon

            so, you have a problem with “innocent until proven guilty?”

            that is, you have a problem with the rule of law and western justice.

            great.

          • Nick099

            See the attorney’s clarification above. Then grow up.

          • ignatzman

            As a criminal attorney I assure you that you as well as countless others commonly misuse the innocent until proven guilty rule. This is a strictly legal concept applicable only in a court of law in order to legally convict someone of a crime. It is not in any way applicable to what is sometimes called the court of public opinion which is protected by the first amendment. Outside a courtroom one is entitled to believe as I do that Tsarnaev is a terrorist murderer and a piece of human debris without a mindless lecture

          • Joris123

            Still, reserving judgement untill all objective facts are presented can be considered a great rule of thumb for anyone who appreciates caution as a triumph of intellect over emotion. Inside or outside court.

            The public opinion tends to be a powerful force that has the ability to destroy lives that find themselves in its crosshair. And unfortunately there is a great deal of collateral damage as a result. The less caution people practice, the worse this gets.

          • musings2

            I agree that history affords many examples of a rush to judgement. Even given the facts of this case, the idea that he knew exactly what his older brother was up to is debatable.

          • wytworm

            It doesn’t matter if he did or did not, he is owed due process.

          • http://whatistaxed.com/ GOOGLE EXCLUDED INCOME

            Ha, ha, hardy har, The govt is angry because they just got caught fabricating (lying as usual) evidence. This boy didn’t have a bullet damaged throat as the govt claimed. No, they surgically chopped his throat so he, like his brother, can’t explain that they were set up as patsies. Now, too many Americans know Boston Bombing was yet another inside job. Notice Boston Globe has already reported that NSA ADMITTED they already had planned a drill for the same EXACT event, a Boston backpack bomber. Also, notice all the govt agents wearing the same black backpacks at the same time for purpose of confusion. So, like Nero, we all know the govt did this terrorist attack, again, so they can take more god given rights from American citizens.
            FACT: 911, had govt drills of same events.
            FACT: London 777, govt had drills of same events.
            The cop who released the photos is a HERO. He knows govt is trying to take god given right of self defense and bearing guns from we the public.

          • ueber

            Where does God give us the right to bear arms? I’m pretty sure Christ taught us to love each other. Bibles and guns do not and never will mix.

          • http://whatistaxed.com/ GOOGLE EXCLUDED INCOME

            1. Everyone and thing is born with the right to destroy whatever is coming to destroy them.
            2. Christ is not God, even Christ said so.
            3. Christ said sell your clothes to buy a sword, which at the time was an illegal weapon for Jews to possess.

            4. Follow Jesus, arm yourself.
            5. No one knows what God wants since he did not write the Bible. Even Moses did not talk to God, but to a burning bush, which really means he was getting high on the mountain.

          • DD4D

            Ah, now your rant above makes sense. Don’t hurt yourself falling off your high horse!

          • runnerbp

            If no one knows what God wants then how do you KNOW you must follow Jesus and arm yourself and destroy whatever you see as wanting to destroy you? What if YOU are WRONG and suffer from delusional paranoia?

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            And how do you know that God even exists?

          • runnerbp

            We don’t. But it might be a comforting idea. Unless She’s mad at you.

          • finabiscotti

            ask Obama that question – as the messiah, he should know……what delusions are – as a member of the CHOOM GANG – showing his brain was eaten up with drugs.
            seems like that is what he was doing on the night of The Radical Muslim terrorist attack in Benghazi = preparing to take flight for a fundraiser in Las Vegas…..

          • Right Wing Mike

            Holy shit, you just became the dumbest person on the web, congratulations!

          • ThorsTheTroll

            God tells us that life is precious, and that we should defend our lives and those of others against evil men who would kill or maim us. It’s called self-defense and defense of others. So there.

          • Jane

            “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword” nowhere does it say keep guns around and start shooting people who you think did you wrong.

          • ThorsTheTroll

            So in your mind, protecting yourself and your loved ones is “living by the sword” and is the same as shooting people who did you wrong? How do you figure that?

          • LouAnnWatson

            “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the Earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword.”

            Matthew 10:34
            Although He does teach us to love one another, he also says to resist any that are not of Him.

          • Ralfine

            Yes, that’s how we know Christians. Bringing the sword to everyone and killing anyone not following their will.

          • ctuton

            Don’t confuse the teachings of Jesus Christ with the foreign policy of the criminal cartel that has occupied the American government and the large group of misguided Americans that march in lockstep with these criminal policies.

          • Ralfine

            The killing of the first born wasn’t American. Asking Abraham to kill his son as a sign of his obedience was at least child abuse.

          • finabiscotti

            yep, while al-Qaeda “leaders” behead their hostages – and eat their organs as Cannibals.

          • Ralfine

            One more reason not to make holiday there. There are enough other hiking places in this world.

          • ctuton

            Very few people read and study the Bible anymore. Christ directed his disciples to sell even their garments if they had to in order to arm themselves with a sword. Look….

            31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

            [snip: you can read these on your own in context]

            35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

            36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

            Luke 22:31-36 (KJV)

          • runnerbp

            NUMBERS 31:17-18 God commanded Moses to kill all of the
            male Midianite children and “kill every woman who has slept with a man,
            but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” And then God said do what with the virgins?

          • ctuton

            Who’s talking in Numbers and who’s talking in Luke? Big difference.

          • runnerbp

            Oh? So you get to choose the parts you like?

          • dismas

            Stick with the New Testament. Christ said “You have heard it said ‘An eye for an eye’ etc. but I say love thine enemy…’” and so on. The Old Testament is history, nearly primitive and sets the stage for new, Christ-like thought.
            Or you can just keep making things up as it suits your purpose.

          • canardnoir

            Obviously, you can prove anything with either numbers, case law, or the Bible (especially when NBC editing protocol is used):

            Exodus 21:24 – “Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,…”

          • Michael R.

            ctuton, please clarify “very few people”… I believe you ruin your credibility with your opening line.

          • BoDogit3

            eww and the nasty head of the gun control agenda bears its ugly head to try to make use of this “event”. Do not pretend to invoke Christ as you remove the inalienable rights of man that includes self defense for your control. Belief in the Father set us free from your control.

          • Lonny Bubert

            Guns were not invented at the time of the bible.

            Lu 22:36 And He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            God didn’t plan for our government to go against him, and try to kill us either. Hence why he states in the Bible, to listen and obey our governmental authorities.

            In reality, the Illuminati wrote the bible. But the facts are still there in it.

            It also doesn’t matter what your Christ said, considering he contradicted what your God said.(:
            The bible is all about hate, and you people cant even see it.

          • stj

            go take your medications lady

          • canardnoir

            With the possible exclusion of some Biblical “eye for an eye” arguments, the Scriptures are generally preaching nonviolence.

          • Suzanne Longo

            here were no guns when the Bible was compiled. It’s not in the Big Book. It’s in the Constitution, but you can’t pull the words out to make your point. You have to say the whole amendment. It does not give anyone Carte Blanc to own to own an assault musket.

          • wytworm

            Non-sequitur.

          • USA

            Looks like they are putting presure on a cut to the left of his throat. GOOGLE EXCLUDED INCOME You need to leave this great state of the USA

          • y’allign’nt

            Sometimes I drive over the border from the State of Connecticut to the great State of New York. But I rarely leave my beloved COUNTRY The United States Of America (also known as the U.S.A.)

          • Lena Tomsk

            USA sux, not great.I lived many years in usa, in 11 state. Place sux. Communism is everywhere, no freedom, no matter what gov says.

          • mkultra66

            tin foil is not just for making hats, you know that right?

          • DD4D

            Dude, it’s PUFF PUFF PASS.

          • RUKIDDING

            I along with many others appreciate Sgt. Murphy doing what he knew was right in releasing these photos and showing who and what that piece of crap Tsarnaev is. This was not anything our government did. Our government is not trying to take our bombs away, it is guns. He did not use a gun. If you believe anything other than the truth, and that is that this cutsey little 19 year old was very much involved in the Boston bombing you need to get your head out of the sand. As Sgt. Murphy mentioned, this was real with people losing their lives and many others in which their lives have been forever changed due to their injuries. I as a proud American stand by Sgt. Murphy and wish him well. Thank you Mr. Murphy!!! As for Rolling Stone magazine, shame on you for trying to make this kid look like he is something more than the piece of crap he is. You obviously did not lose anyone or have a family member injured due to this tragic event.

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            Did you even look at those pictures? He didnt have a throat wound, meaning they lied about him not being able to talk.

            They lied about plenty of things.

            And a lot of those people were crises actors, they didnt even get hurt. That guy who supposedly lost his legs, already lost them 2 years prior at war. Different name, same guy.

            I could care less about the people who lost someone, because its their fault for being at such a pointless sheep event anyways. They could have been doing something REAL with their lives. Not watching people kill themselves running.

          • stj

            you’re an idiot

          • juststacey

            “That guy who supposedly lost his legs, already lost them 2 years prior at war. Different name, same guy.”

            Holy crap! Did I really read that?!

            With that comment you have shown the world that you are completely and totally ignorant and delusional and PURE EVIL, and you have ABSOLUTE ZERO credibility.

            What is WRONG with you?! Bitch I’m a life-long Bostonian. Come here, look me in the eye and talk that crazy, completely fabricated shit and see what happens to you. OMFG I can’t believe you actually posted that to a public forum!!!

            “I could care less about the people who lost someone, because its their fault for being at such a pointless sheep event anyways. They could have been doing something REAL with their lives. Not watching people kill themselves running.”

            You are a vicious, self-righteous bitch and you make me sick. First of all, the expression is COULDN’T CARE LESS, you dumb ass, but FAR more importantly, your utter lack of empathy and respect for human life is shocking and appalling.

            And you want marathon runners to do something real with their lives? Like post outright lies on the internet rather then spend time outdoors doing physical exercise and building a strong cardio-vascular system? Killing themselves? Please…

            FYI marathon runners are some of the the fittest and healthiest people on the planet – or did you conveniently miss the picture of 78 year old Bill Iffrig, running in his 45th marathon, being knocked to the ground by the force of the explosion which appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated as well as many other publications?

            Your ignorance and hate are just beyond words.

          • juststacey

            There’s only ONE reason why I’m not copying and pasting this to his and Carlos Arrondando’s FB pages, and that’s because it would be such a cruel insult to the both of them and I’m just not that kind of mean-spirited person as you obviously are!

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            And I do literally mean killing themselves. Many people have died from running, and there is more than enough evidence that running is bad for us. Just like there is more than enough evidence that the Government was behind all of this.

            They are trying to take our guns, you gotta be brainless to not see the trend. The government lies about everything, its been proven time and time again.

            Our President wasn’t even born here.
            Defending the corrupt government is completely un-American.

          • runnerbp

            So let me get this straight Sakeeta. There’s lot’s of evidence that running is bad for us AND that the Government is behind all this and does it so “they” can take “our” guns but there is no proof that Obama was born here? It’s sort of amusing that the most provable the one you dismiss. I love this. It’s very amusing.

          • FredMurre

            actually it looks like in one of the photos an EMT is applying a dressing to the left side- just below the jaw of Tsarnaev’s throat. There also appears to be blood and bruising around that area. So it is likely he could’ve been shot left right, or back-left.

            At any rate it is moot, because now he can apparently speak after healing and can give verbal testimony.

          • runnerbp

            perhaps you should scrutinize those whose body parts were blown off with equal care my friend.

          • BoDogit3

            No offense it just isn’t there I have no theory as to why the government released this meme but I do not see a wound on his neck. The straight on pic gives a pretty good view of his neck with no injury. Nor does the sweatshirt he is wearing indicate blood soaking consistent from a neck injury. I predict they will redact that statement and claim it was confusion. Confusion that they let the public assume all this time. I have also wondered why they opened fire on a person they from flir could tell wasn’t armed. I am sure there is an explanation for the two hundred or so rounds they emptied into that boat they just haven’t explained to us. Deadly force usually requires ….. etc

          • Gary A

            Your comments might better serve a creative writing course for its wonderful imagination .

          • Adam’and Erica Richardson

            You’re seriously an idiot… You probably subscribe to info wars too huh? The government surgically sliced his throat… GTFO

          • Suzanne Longo

            The officer who released the photos didn’t do that for the reason you are referring to. He did it in protest about the cover of Rolling Stone magazine. His goal was to show that this kid is no rock star – he’s a criminal. My goodness you sure do twist things around.

          • jasonhodges

            See the 2nd last image. Officer is holding a gauze to his throat to stem the blood flow from the injury.

          • HIKER BIKER

            That is the after. Look at the main photo and tell me where the blood is from that so-called throat wound. You can clearly see both sides of his neck and not a drop of blood on it – not even a smear.

          • jasonhodges

            You mus tbe looking at a completely different set of photos to the ones I am looking at,

            http://cdn.bostonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/113_4510A_21.jpg
            This image the left side of his neck is hidden in shadow.

            http://cdn.bostonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/113_4470_21.jpg
            This image the left side of his neck is also hidden in shadow.

            http://cdn.bostonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/113_44851.jpg
            This image his neck is hidden.

            http://cdn.bostonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/413_3544_21.jpg

            This image the cop is holding ther LEFT side of his neck.

            Where is the photo CLEARLY showing both sides of his neck?

            At the end of the day, there is not a shred of photo or Video evidence THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED to show that they did it.
            It is obvious to anyone with eyes & ears that they have been stitched up.
            My argument is against the comment saying there is no injury not the “Suspect”.

          • HIKER BIKER

            I am not sure if this blowup is going to last. It is all over the Internet. Zoom in on the neck area and it contradicts what the mediocre liar, Gov. Patrick said about him being shot in the throat. It also contracdicts what The Mirror said about him shooting himself in the throat in a bid to commit suicide. Witnesses said he was telling cops not to shoot. How do you do that with a bullet in your throat? And more importantly, how deep will a Bostonian’s head go up their anus? More likely someone saw that Tsarnaev was able to tell the truth and tried to cut his throat – another miserable failure.

          • jasonhodges

            Are you on drugs?? This photo as I said before has the area in question in complete darkness. How on earth can you say there is no injury there. Look at the 2nd last image. The cop/soldier is clearly holding a gauze high up under his left jawline. In the photo you have linked, it is a black area. Where do you think all the blood came from.
            Again, I think they are are being set up, but I cannot stand when even conspiracy nuts just are purely making shit up from the “revealing” photos in front of them.
            Again! The area is dark. There is blood on his face that has possibly run from an injury somewhere when his head was ducked down.
            You cannot say there is or is not a neck injury, but yes they could have sliced him after he was apprehended and before the 2nd last image.

          • HIKER BIKER

            I am surprised that a large portion of the people of Boston are so ignorant that they cannot see the lack of throat wounds in this picture and have ignored every independent witness. Sad for you guys. Try that crap here and see what happens. Thankfully I live in a state with intelligent majorities.

          • runnerbp

            Hahahaha…. Boston is one of the most educated in the world. So you glance at an image and make assumptions. You know who is or isn’t an independent witness and if they were ignored? Very amusing. Thanks.

          • HIKER BIKER

            I think we can now all agree that education has little to do with intelligence. Anyone with average intelligence can read and memorize. So what you are saying is that Boston contains more average people that most cities in the world. That’s not really an impressive factoid. But it explains why so many of you have ignored the evidence in this false flag coverup.

          • Stuart Alderson

            would you feel the same way had you of been sitting or standing next to one of the backpacks that exploded? I highly doubt it, you would be dead. Never knowing why or how. Due process works for civilized folks, not animals.

          • wytworm

            Rights are intrinsic, they do not require civilization. The state and its citizens can only recognize those rights or not. There is no power that enables one citizen to remove rights from another.

            It is a common tactic for one who has fallen from a moral position, or is experiencing a moral conflict to justify immoral treatment of another by declaring them arbitrarily and irrationally ‘not human’ in order to temporarily relieve their conscience. As they are not empowered to actually make someone’ un-human’, this is largely a narcissistic and irrational exercise.

          • Guest

            Rights are intrinsic and do not require civilization until society decides to take them away.

          • wytworm

            The State is not empowered to take them away, only to fail to recognize them. The rights are still there even if the state or its citizens spit on them.

          • xofpi

            Some people need to read their social contract theory more closely. Rights only make sense in a social context, The notion that we have them naturally (pre-civilization) is utterly meaningless. A pretty thought, maybe, but utterly unfalsifiable and hence meaningless.Which isn’t to say that I think rights aren’t important. But they’re utterly useless to people unless they’re recognized by those with power to take them away. Which is why we have to be vigilant about each other’s rights as well as our own,

          • wytworm

            That natural rights are rights not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable in no way make them ‘pre-civilization’.

            That they are ‘meaningless’ is a non-sequitur.

            Rights are also not dependent on their utility. You may be confusing ‘natural rights’ with ‘legal rights’.

          • canardnoir

            Actually, his natural rights would be best served by Utah law.

          • wytworm

            How so?

          • canardnoir

            Their “firing squad” method of execution, legal scholar.

          • wytworm

            His natural rights could not be best served by capital punishment as natural law does not sanction capital punishment. This is a good example how the US is out of alignment with natural human rights.

            The argument goes:

            Natural law does not support capital punishment. Execution is only an additional unnatural act of state sponsored murder. If murder is an unnatural act; such should also be kept for the state and the administration of justice. Capital punishment condones unnecessary violence. Execution therefore could not be proportional by reason.

          • bostonmeg

            Except he didn’t “allegedly” kill anyone in Utah did he?

            As for due process, yes, he should have it as he is a U.S. Citizen.

            Don’t worry Massachusetts has been here a long time and we follow the law so he’ll go through the Court process which trust me will protect his rights more than the victims. He’ll get to wage a defense of his actions that day and following days.

          • xofpi

            There is no such thing as a right (of any kind) without someone to recognize it and respect it or not. “Natural right” is pure fiction. Pure fiction. But if it makes you feel better to believe in it, by all means believe in it.

          • wytworm

            Doesn’t this position set you squarely against the Zoroastrians, the Stoics, Martin Luther, John Locke, the Virginia Declaration of Rights, Freeborn John, Francis Hutcheson, Hegel, Richard Price, the Declaration of Independence, the universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the US Constitution?

            How does your positive claim hold up under that weight?

          • xofpi

            I don’t care who it sets me against philosophically as long it doesn’t set me against truth and reality.

            Is there or has there ever been an instance of someone whose alleged natural rights have been of any real use to him if those rights have not been recognized in a social context? Take the alleged “right to life,” which certain of our friends on the religious right (mainly) insist upon for all conceived humans in a way somewhat different from Locke and the Constitution (for example), but nevertheless as something God-given (i.e., nature-given). Is this right “real”? Not according to Roe v. Wade. Does this right do the bearer any good without a social context to give it weight? I’ll let a little thought on your behalf about the good it does a sixteen-week-old fetus prove my point that it does absolutely no good to anyone ever if it isn’t granted by one or ones with power to take it away at any time.

            Clearly, in other words, no individual’s right is ever inherent in any real or meaningful way outside a social context. Which is why, I will repeat, people in a society have virtually no choice but to be vigilant about their rights and those of others if they want them to matter. Rights in themselves are very, very weak tools. If you don’t believe that, try to assert a right to an officer of the law who is prepared to deny you of one. Try to assert one to another individual trying to deny you of one.

            The irony of our little argument here is that I believe Tsarnaev “should” have a right to due process, that this society owes him that as it owes all American citizens that, in keeping with its word given in the Constitution. But do I have utter faith in due process as a natural human right, let alone a legal one? I don’t have the luxury of having faith in anything.

          • wytworm

            Can you confirm your rejection of centuries of study and the underpinnings of the country at hand in the topic all as ‘fictions’? Do you believe that none them exist? Some? Which ones? If natural rights are fictions, can you employ them in support of your own argument? Do they exist or don’t they?

            Setting this aside…

            Is the right to life a positive right or a negative right? Does the distinction matter?

            Are zygotes human at conception?

            Is there a distinction you are respecting between natural and legal rights? Is a 16 week fetus? Is a pregnant woman a human? If you extend human rights to a16 week old fetus, do you concede that an adult great ape is also owed recognition of its rights by the state?

            Rights are most meaningful when not recognized as they serve as an aspirational goal to guide a faltering or fallen state back to a moral position.

            That you believe that he should have a right is morally irrelevant to his having the right. He was born with the right, whether or not it was a birth in the US, it is not granted by citizenship, if he is executed, he will have died with his rights. As long as he is human and alive they are inviolate.

            All the state does is act in recognition or ignore them for other ends. Not even a fallen or failing state can impact the rights owed.

            You shouldn’t be reaching for faith, you should be reaching for reason.

          • xofpi

            Centuries of “study” or centuries of masturbation? It’s in the eye of the beholder.

            What I’m concerned about is truth as it pertains to reality of what I can know and how useful this knowledge is to me. Centuries of “sages” and “savants” declaiming on “natural rights” are useful to me only in the context of an exam on the subject where those questions are treated as serious ones and where the way I answer them has at least some bearing on how well I will do in that class. In the context of my life, however, they mean virtually nothing.

            It all boils down for me to the question of what a “right” is in the context of some entity that does *not* recognize it, and for any given right, there will always be someone or some entity that does not recognize it. This is the whole reason why we have written constitutions and rules, which are meant to spell out our rights (and responsibilities) in a formal way, which makes it somewhat (but not entirely) less difficult to claim a right in every context where it might be useful to those agreeing to play by those specific rules. But constitutions and rules always imply that someone has claimed power to make the rules (and others have yielded power to those rules makers) and, therefore, there is never an instance of a right meaning anything if it is not recognized (and in some cases flat out invented) by the rule-maker(s) in power. All of this, it seems pretty clear to me, implies that our delineated rights mean absolutely nothing if the rules makers suddenly decide not to recognize them. The PATRIOT Act is one of those instances when previously agreed-to rights were suddenly thrown out because supposedly changed circumstances made those rights (against search and seizure and for due process for all citizens) “irrelevant” and even harmful to the new status quo.

            What, really, is a right in the face of a power’s unwillingness to honor it? I’d love to see a serious answer to this, one that doesn’t skip off to the metaphysics of Cloud Cuckooland–in other words, one that explains how the right itself is somehow greater than the power that opposes it to instantly affect the alleged “right”-holder’s life, limb and general safety. Loads of people have lost their lives or control of their lives who theoretically had rights that supposedly should have protected them. I mean why were these rights-holders or even their advocates unable to secure them their rights just by invoking them if rights are really so mighty? The answer is, rights are not mighty. As I said, they’re very weak tools when the powerful choose to become dangerous to rights holders.

            An aspirational goal and $2.50 will get you a ride on the NYC subway.

          • wytworm

            “Centuries of “study” or centuries of masturbation?”

            Non-sequitur.

            “It’s in the eye of the beholder.”

            Are you asserting that philosophy is subjective?Is it not true that the implication of “logic,” if not of reason, is that the syllogism of each thought must have certain patterns of propositions, and those propositions must have basis in fact of some sort or another even if only assumed?

            “In the context of my life, however, they mean virtually nothing.”

            If you live in the US whose constitution was based on natural law, how can this be true?

            “It all boils down for me…does not recognize it.”

            How are you able to evaluate the states calibration without the reference framework of natural law? Are you basing your evaluation just what was there when you were born vs what is there today? Under this model, how could the Constitution even exist today? Ddi it spring in to being fully formed when you were born? Was it instead based on as you claim, centuries of masturbation, and if so, why do you value it enough to care that you are moving further away from masturbation?

            You seemed concerned about the PATRIOT act, but why? The lawmakers changed the law ergo, your rights are reset and you have no complaint. Whatever the lawmakers decide you get you get. If you disagree, upon what does the disagreement hinge? How can you retain the notion that it is wrong to take away a legal right if its not by comparing it to a natural right? Upon what do you make the evaluation?

            Further, i don’t know that even the PATRIOT act declares deprecated rights to be irrelevant, as much as it admits that the state has failed to protect relevant rights in a climate of mass panic, which may or may not even be rational.

            I agree that if the new status quo is based on fear and irrationality, rather than reason, much of the constitution seems misaligned to this proposed status quo.

            “What, really, is a right in the face of a power’s unwillingness to honor it?”

            If by rights you mean legal rights being valueless in a state that has no rule of law, that seems an obvious answer. If you are working in a model that declares humanity valueless and meaningless, indeed, fictitious outside the confines of a state, you are required stop there. No other answer is possible for such people.

            That people have lost their lives while in possession of natural rights is no different that people losing their lives while in possession of legal rights.

            Natural rights are mighty precisely because they do not rely on being invoked.

            It is correct to say neither legal, nor natural rights guarantee a positive outcome to the rights holder.

          • xofpi

            The constitution was based on a **theory** of natural law. It was not **based** on natural law, which doesn’t exist. Unless you want to call “eat or be eaten” a law of some kind, and that’s not what the constitution was based on obviously.

            “Natural rights are mighty precisely because they do not rely on being invoked.” Then they really have no use at all, do they?

            Please give me an example of one of these vaulted natural rights and show me exactly how useful it is to a given person at any given time–including a time, for instance, when they are being deprived of this right by an “authority.” I mean, exactly in that moment, what use is the right to the person?

            (And if you agree that the right is essentially useless at that moment, then explain how you or any one can make any grand statements about its being “inherent” or “natural” and “important.” It would seem to me that the ease–the naturalness, you might say–with which the right is deprived of that person belies that right’s being “natural” or “important” or more to the point **real**.

          • wytworm

            “The constitution was based … based on obviously”

            How is this different than mathematics? Are you arguing that abstractions are meaningless?

            ‘”Natural rights are mighty precisely because they do not rely on being invoked.” Then they really have no use at all, do they?’

            They have as much of a use as say, mathematics. Are you struggling to find a link between abstract thought and concrete action?

            “Please give me an example…right to the person?”

            I can give you an example of a vaulted ceiling, but i cannot give you an example of a vaulted right. It is true that vaulted rights do not exist.

            If you are instead asking about ‘vaunted’ natural rights, I would still not comply, as I do not consider their praise to be excessive.

            If you are instead asking about examples of natural rights being useful to fend of an intruder breaking into your house, no you cannot pick up a natural right off the ground and throw it at an intruder, in the same way you could not throw mathematics at the intruder.

            (And if you…the point **real**.

            Can you provide the causal link between ‘useful’ as you use it, and ‘inherent’, ‘natural’, ‘important’ or my chosen word, ‘intrinsic’?

            Can you show that legal rights or natural rights are required to guarantee outcomes to be, **real**, as you use the term?

          • xofpi

            Yes, of course I meant “vaunted” rights.

            As for your question about “real” rights, the only ones that are real in my view are ones that do have a use, as, for example, those that are recognized in contexts when their not being recognized can endanger one’s life, limb or freedom. And the only such rights meeting that criterion are what you call legal rights, and only when the authority empowered to effectively recognize them actually does recognize them. For example, the right to due process. It’s a legal right, as it’s in the constitution, but there have been innumerable cases since the founding of the republic when the authorities have not recognized it. However, in some cases, authorities can be shamed into recognizing it for whatever reason, sometimes, even when higher authorities require them to. But it’s never guaranteed that higher authorities in this country will require it if a clever enough legal counterargument dissuades them from it.

            Alleged natural rights, unless you can show me one to the contrary, don’t even have this effect. You cannot go to a magistrate, for example, after you’ve been murdered to argue that your right to life has been violated. You cannot go to *anyone* in such cases because, of course, your being dead prevents it. It’s also unlikely that you can even go to your murderer before he pulls the trigger to remind him of your inherent and natural right to life. So what use is that right again? I mean except as something to cheer yourself up in circumstances when it doesn’t need to be invoked–sort of the way the idea of eternal afterlife cheers up slaves and other Christian sufferers in this world.

          • wytworm

            “the only ones that are real in my view are ones that do have a use”

            Is this not just an arbitrary declaration? Is the measure of ‘real’ is whatever you decide based on your ‘view’? Is view another way of saying ‘this is my position’? If so, would it be possible to outline the logical underpinnings for your position?

            “what you call legal rights,”

            I don’t call them legal rights as an invention, everyone is meant to subscribe to a common standard of discourse where words have commonly understood definitions. My advice is that you look up all such terms and make sure you understand what I mean when I use them and to make sure I understand what you mean when you use them.

            “For example, the right to due process. It’s a legal right, as it’s in the constitution…”

            …and its in the constitution because it is a natural right.

            “However, in some cases, authorities can be shamed into recognizing it”

            What is the origin of the shame? If its just arbitrarily placed in the constitution for no particular reason, why would shame be effective?

            “But it’s never …them from it.”

            That there is a legal right that is not followed and is tolerated to be not followed is not an indication that the legal right does not exist any more that the lack of the recognition or understanding of natural rights means that they do not exist. It simply means you are living in a state that is failing and drifting away from the rule of law.

            “Alleged natural rights, unless you can show me one to the contrary”

            Non-sequitur.

            Do the dead enjoy natural rights? I am aware of one study of this question, but remain unconvinced. At any rate, the right to life can be considered as either a positive right or a negative right with one obligating action, and the other obligating inaction. In the US, as in many areas there is a blend of positive and negative legal rights. In the case of a murder, the murderer may be proven guilty of a violation of the negative right to life, and the state may be proven guilty of a violation of the positive right to life of the victim. In either case the victim enjoyed the right, both positive and negative, up to the point of death. THat legal and natural rights do not guarantee outcomes, is not evidence of the lack of legal and natural rights. You are correct that neither legal rights nor natural rights will prevent your murder.

            Are you then arguing that legal rights also, do not exist?

            “slaves and other Christian sufferers”

            Bizarre non-sequitur. Are all slaves christians? Are all christians slaves? Do christians suffer? Do they have a monopoly on suffering?

            “can you… You can’t. Don’t bother trying.”

            Does this answering of your own question indicate that your framework of reality is entirely subjective and declaratory? That is to say, rights are what I say they are because I say so. I am reminded of Nixon’s ‘When the President does it, that means it is not illegal.’ quote.

            I hate to ask, but in your ‘view’ what exactly is precise about math as an abstraction? Everything our society does on a day-to-day basis is an example of the utility of natural rights.

          • xofpi

            “its [due process is] in the constitution because it is a natural right.”

            No. It’s in the constitution because there was a precedence for it in British law in highly specific contexts. That’s the fact. Was it in British law because is a natural right? No, unless by natural right you mean the rights of a certain class of people to have due process of law. If you want to call it “natural right” that’s fine, but realize that the term is highly misleading, as nature has nothing to do with where it comes from.

            “What is the origin of the shame [that can motivate authorities to honoring rights they haven't honored]?”

            Politics.

            “In either case the victim enjoyed the right [to life], both positive and negative, up to the point of death.”

            The victim was merely alive up to the point of death. He never had an actual natural “right to life” at any point because at any point, his life could be taken from him, by sickness, accident or injustice–or even order of the powers that be. (Much more likely by sickness or accident, however.) So what actually does “right to life” even mean, given this capricious, random nature of life in this universe? It barely means anything.

            It only means (a little) something in the context of a society that bequeaths it generally–but even a society such as that can decide to take your life (by forcibly drafting you and sending you off to be cannon fodder, as this society has done at various major points of its history, for example; or by endowing power to law officers to use weapons against you that could kill you if you’re thought [mistaken or not] to be in the act of committing a violent [or not] crime). I mean, yes, it’s good to have a general “right to life” in a society with armed law officers everywhere, but there are loads of cases when that right in this context won’t get you a cup of coffee if you don’t have some change in your pocket.

            “Are you then arguing that legal rights also, do not exist?”

            No. They’re the only rights that exist. But it’s a dangerous mistake to take them for granted, because they don’t exist very loudly most of the time, until you need them–and then *you* have to assert them, because few will do that for you.

            “Are all slaves christians? Are all christians slaves? Do christians suffer? Do they have a monopoly on suffering?”

            My point restated: belief in natural rights, such as a right to life inherent in nature, is on par with the Christian (for example) belief long inculcated in slaves and other long-term sufferers to not worry about this life, for a better eternity awaits them. I mean specifically that the belief in natural rights, like the Christian belief in the happy eternal afterlife, are feel-good beliefs that cannot be proved false or true, which is precisely their power.

            “I hate to ask, but in your ‘view’ what exactly is precise about math as an abstraction?”

            I’m going to have call you on your own bizarre non sequitur here. There is simply no useful comparison between math and natural rights. There is no intelligent point of comparison there. Math is a real tool that proves its value every time you turn on a computer. You don’t have to assert math for it be useful and real–someone else is already doing it for you. You do have to assert your rights or very few people are going to give a sh!t about them and they won’t do you a lick of good.

          • wytworm

            There was a ‘precedent’, not a ‘precedence’.

            Where do you think the Magna Carta came from? Spontaneous generation? The whole chain of history you claim is fiction, without evidence to back that claim informed both documents.

            In The Natural Law: A Study in Legal and Social History and Philosophy, Heinrich Rommen notes that Bracton and Fortescue retained the conceptions of natural law which it had assimilated during the Catholic Middle Ages.

            So it didn’t spring from nowhere.

            Charles F Mullet, in Fundamental Law and the Revolution 176-1776, noted Bracton’s ‘ethical definition of law, his recognition of justice, and finally his devotion to natural rights.’

            Coincidentally, Bracton was a subject of study for Thomas Jefferson. I could go on at some length, but you get the idea.

            ‘Politics’

            Link politics to shame. The idea is that shame works when there is a moral standard or norm that has been fallen away from and the falling away has been public. If the moral standard isn’t natural law, what is it?

            ‘The victim…means anything.’

            Do rights, either legal or natural guarantee outcomes? If they do not, do either exist? Is this your question? It is true that humans can be alive without legal rights, though in modern society that is just about impossible, but if one is human, and one is alive, and one exists in the natural world, natural rights and duties, and indeed the moral standards to govern human behavior can be, and have been, objectively derived. I think you understand the idea, even if you do not like it, fully understand it, or want it. None of those subjective positions has any influence whatever to their objective existence as a model for human behavior. Nor does that subjective rewrite history, the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, nor the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which seek to codify natural rights into legal rights and duties that govern modern society.

            As the executor of the law, the State can succeed or fail to adhere to the legal rights that are codifications of natural rights, and the legislative bodies, over time can succeed or fail to protect legal rights as the States expression of natural rights and duties within a society.

            They cannot however, undo the objective nature of humanity, or of nature itself to unmake natural law.

            That rights exist loudly, strongly, or weakly makes little if any sense. You are employing but not defining special personal definitions for these words which in the absence of context might as well not be there. It does seem clear that whatever definition you are using for the word ‘useful’ this is at the crux of your subjective reality as it is the main enabler to reject objective reality as ‘useless’.

            Without a common framework for discourse, I don’t know that much further progress can be made, however I look forward to your reply.

          • xofpi

            “There was a ‘precedent’, not a ‘precedence’. ”

            Wow. Yer so smaaart. ;-)

            You obviously didn’t even want to see if I corrected that, did you? That was your right, you know. Bad sign for your fair-minded participation here.

            Decades of experience tells me when a person you’re trying to dialogue with starts playing prissy schoolmarm with your every post, it’s probably a sign nothing good is going to come out of further dialogue. Ok, teach? .

            I’ll take a look at the rest of your post maybe and if there’s anything there worth responding to, maybe I will

          • wytworm

            “Wow…fair-minded participation here.”

            Is not clear communication to be desired? Word-misuse happens often for many, its not a big deal. Neither is its correction, nor should it be.

            I agree that a common framework for discourse is necessary to any dialogue. If we are unable to navigate to one in a spirit of comity, continuance is not useful.

            I think you will understand, if you may not be able to accept, that you are held to the same standard.

          • xofpi

            I’m open to all sorts of communication, but I have no patience for smart-ass school marms who like to bog discussions down in the minutiae of irrelevancies for whatever reason.

            I’ve got other things to do, though I’m always interested in ideas. I just don’t have the patience to be marmed by you. Even if it’s just a tic on your part, it’s a waste of my time and energy when I’m trying to keep focused on the ideas.

            I may or may not be back, if I find something worthwhile in what you wrote in addition to the “fun” you apparently thought you were having with my typing difficulties.

          • wytworm

            After applying the invective filter, there is nothing to respond to here. Withdrawal accepted Good luck out there!

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            Oh yes lets have Israel’s vigilante rights, steal others properties and then kill the victims or silence him-well guess what this time Snowden has stuff on Israel screwing USA, so don’t try to preach what Israel does to Muslims, we do not want to hear it, we have a constitution formed by our Christian forefathers-and one of its clauses is due process rights which I do not see in in the dual citizen mantra of and by the people who run our congress for Israel and make laws for Israel with no loyalty to USA

          • xofpi

            Interesting conversation you’re having with yourself.

          • Lonny Bubert

            The State is not empowered, yet somehow they do take away rights even intrinsic rights. One may not be able to take away the concept of intrinsic rights, but one sure can suppress those rights to be effectively taken away….same result as not having them at all.

          • wytworm

            A state can fail to recognize or protect rights but they cannot take them away. They are intrinsic. This means they are a humans by virtue of being human.

          • Jess

            I’ve agreed with every single comment you’ve made up until this one. You’re seeing through rose colored glasses. You’re smarter than that.

          • wytworm

            Sorry to lose you! It has nothing to do with rose color glasses. It has to do with understanding your rights and duties and their relationship to the state.

          • Jess

            I understand my rights and duties. But that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re protected.

          • wytworm

            If you understand your rights and duties, you understand that they are protected less and less every day! Do you understand the rights and duties of the accused bomber? Do we have a duty to protect his rights?

          • Jess

            Yes, I am aware. As far as I’m concerned (because I’m not blind to our government), my rights can be taken from me without warning and without my permission. I understand that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has the right to a fair trial.

          • wytworm

            Almost. They cannot be taken away from you anymore then they can be taken away from Dzhokhar. All the State and its citizens can do is fail to recognize and/or protect them.

          • Jess

            I think you give the State more credit than they deserve.

          • wytworm

            How so?

          • Jess

            This is the sad truth of the nation we live in today. Having ‘rights’ borderlines exclusivity and is monitored by the same people who create loopholes to protect the exclusivity. Americans are getting, for lack of a better word, fucked by our government and the mass majority are too brainwashed to realize it.

          • Al

            Logic is only the begining of wisdom.

            A photo is worth a 1000 words.

            1000 photos of them at the marathon (red handed) will speak volumes…

          • wytworm

            Non-sequitur.

          • ByTheWay

            The guy had a light colored backpack. The pictures showed it. They also showed the bombs were in black backpacks. How do you explain that?

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            I haven’t seen one photo of the surveillance footage they said they had, of him putting the bag down and saying something into a cell phone.

            All the pictures shown of them, showed them walking around like everyone else. There were tons of people with backpacks, and there was an agent talking into an earpiece.

            The footage you sheep were shown, proves their innocence. You’re just too blind to see it.

          • bostonmeg

            Constitutional Rights such as “due process” are in fact only afforded to Citizens of the United States.

            Dzhokar Tsarnaev (along with his mother who is currently a fugitive from Justice) is a U.S. Citizen so he will get his court-appointed Attorney and Trial by a Jury of his peers.

          • wytworm

            It would be more accurate to say that US Constitutional rights are only afforded to citizens of the US when they are being tried in the US.

            The US does not have a monopoly on constitutions or on a concept of due process.

            That the US recognizes this natural right is not the same as saying the US grants this natural right. At best they extend a legal right in recognition of the natural right.

          • bostonmeg

            I actually was commenting directly on Mr Tsarnaev who will be tried in the United States.

            You are correct in that “due process” only applies within the United States and to US Citizens being tried within the United States. If you get into trouble in another Country then you are subject to their laws. Something that some American Citizens seem to forget.

            As for “natural rights” I am not even sure what one would be – the “right to breathe” and who would give you that “right” in the first place? God? Government?

          • wytworm

            I assume you meant to say this in reference to US citizens.

            Aliens in the U.S. have essentially the same legal rights as citizens for many purposes because of the 5th and 14th Amendments’ language, but aliens do not have legal rights against the U.S. government outside its territory.

            Many other countries also extend due process legal rights to non-citizens including citizens from the US.

            Even when a state does not, the person in question still retains the natural right in absence of its recognition.

          • bostonmeg

            Hence why the first sentence stated “directly commenting on Mr Tsarnaev” who is a US Citizen.

          • wytworm

            Hence why my first sentence stated ‘I assume you meant to say this in reference to US citizens.’

          • bostonmeg

            All United States Citizens are guaranteed the right of due process, as is Mr Tsarnaev as I stated above. I am not interested in taking anyone’s right’s away period as I believe our system only works when we follow the letter of the law.

            Have you been this vocal on the loss of Civil Liberties by The Patriot Act? Until recently not many Americans seemed to care all that much about the ever-broadening scope of Government’s ability to circumvent Individual Rights to Privacy, etc. Just curious.

          • wytworm

            “All United States Citizens are guaranteed the right of due process”…unless they are declared enemy combatants.

            You couldn’t take away anyones natural rights if you wanted to.

            Following the letter of the law is only virtuous in a state which has virtuous law.

            My vocality is irrelevant to the topic.

            “Until recently not many Americans seemed to care all that much about the ever-broadening scope of Government’s ability to circumvent Individual Rights to Privacy, etc. Just curious.”

            What data do you have to support this claim?

          • bostonmeg

            It’s amazing how your arguments just keep shifting like sand and you are just trying to pick a fight.

            Save it for someone who wants to play this game with you. I am done

          • wytworm

            Tu quoque. I accept your withdrawal.

          • ctuton

            Due process works for the innocent. Maybe even you if falsely accused. Due process will convict the guilty if the evidence supports it. Your opinion is that of a lynch mob. Due process is for civilized society – not animals.

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            My Point exactly, with all the lies the police are making up as they move along

          • Scott Carriere

            and who is going to judge which is which? You?

          • JAM726

            He is “owed” two in the chest and one in the head as far as I’m concerned.

          • wytworm

            It is people like you that due process protects –even from people like you.

          • runnerbp

            He is owed due process…. and he did it.

          • wytworm

            Irrelevant, but everyone has an opinion for whatever its worth.

          • LouAnnWatson

            but yet he helped him out in the end by running him over

          • Bodhisattva

            Yeah like the current rush to judgment despite the court results in the Zimmerman case. Of course that’s just racists stirring the pot.

          • imachicmom

            He placed the backpack that killed little Martin, it’s on video :(

          • FreeDubay

            I guess the pressure cooker he was carrying in his backpack, I guess he could have thought his brother had put a roast in it for people who we finishing the Marathon. Your point is well made.

          • Arminius

            He probably figured it out by the time he ran him over, and sought to elude the police. Both of which, if memory serves, are against the law.

          • BoDogit3

            unless you are exercising self preservation

          • ignatzman

            A thoughtful and intelligent comment applicable to many situations but not this one.Just the publicly known evidence against this vermin is overwhelming and not subject to reasonable debate. You are correct that in some situations a rush to judgment can be harmful. Always keep in mind however that it is protected by the first amendment

          • wytworm

            Due process is also protected.

          • canardnoir

            Again – a legal judicial concept or doctrine pertaining more toward the formal booking, questioning and preliminary-hearing process.

            Public opinion is exempt, as many may have more recently noted.

          • wytworm

            Its protection is a Constitutional concept.

            I don’t know that anyone is assaulting public opinion.

          • Zephyr

            We can rush to judgement all we like, and the public can assume that because a newspaper mentions “evidence” that “evidence” exists; in the end, none of those things determine what really happened, or make something publicly “known.” Something can really only be known to persons who directly experienced it; after that, a case must be made and accompanied with evidence and sworn testimony, and we hope that the truth is served. Even with fantastic evidence and lots of sworn testimony, we may not know, but it’s the best we’ve got. To say that the public currently “knows” anything about this case yet, though, is simply not possible. It took 15 years to bring out the evidence in favor of a second shooter/conspiracy in the plot to assassinate President Kennedy; I doubt we’ll know deeper truths about the Boston Bombing for a long time to come, but I hold out hope that day will come.

          • runnerbp

            I’m sorry Zeph, but a reality check in order here. There is so much evidence from so many sources that your line of thinking is a relevant as saying you don’t really know if you exist because, well, you could be imagining it.

          • ByTheWay

            In my area a college coach was there and he spoke about a drill was going on at the same time as the Boston Event. Look up how many drills go on at the same time as these type of events. It confuses the people who are doing the drills to know if it is a drill or a real event. Same thing happen with 9/11. “Vigilant Guardian”

          • jamie121

            Bullshit.

          • ByTheWay

            Is that your intelligent response? Did you even look it up? It shows your herd mentality. I pity your lack of individual thinking skills. Do some independent research and you might see the truth and come out of the matrix in which you live.

          • jamie121

            Oh, yeah, I’ve “looked it up” about a hundred times. I’ve seen every bit off evidence that you deluded morons have to present, and again, I say to you: Bullshit.

          • Sarah Roberts

            You’ve seen every bit of evidence, huh?Are you kidding?You haven’t SEEN any evidence!Two guys with backpacks, walking around the corner by ‘Whiskey’s Steakhouse’,and that’s it!The rest is all information fed to you by the media;you haven’t actually seen any of it!

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            911 who done it my friend surely not butter knife wielding imaginary pigmies

          • runnerbp

            Drills happen. Boston is a big city with lots of people practicing to make things work. That is a coincidence.

          • Zephyr

            There was even more evidence, from more sources, in the Kennedy case that very day–far more sources. Some of them within hours. Just saying that the truth of any major crime usually takes a lot of time and effort to establish. It is far too early to establish much of anything in the Boston Bombing.

          • runnerbp

            Actually there was far more video evidence in the Boston case. There was even a cab driver who drove them there. And those bomb materials in their houses….etc. Yes, yes I get it…. the news media and the government of the US, Boston, Massachusetts, the FBI, the CIA and thousands of others are secretly trying to confuse you into thinking that what they are doing is different than what are reallllllly doing. Of course!! How could I have missed it?

          • jamie121

            Doesn’t take much to confuse these dumbbells.

          • jamie121

            I’d say it’s pretty late in the game to discount how they bought the parts for the bombs, left debris of it laying around the apartment, had an escape plan together, were videotaped at the scene with the same bags that were used and were involved in about eighty crimes afterward.

          • ByTheWay

            The pictures I saw that were provided by the FBI the suspect had was light colored. The bomb backpacks were shown as black lying in the street. How do you explain that?

          • letstalkcandidly

            Oops – a new conspiracy theory in the making! Get a life!

          • P1tsz

            My god. This is very true

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            A reality check is in order for you. The Illuminati have their dirty hands in everything, and they are the ones that planned the whole event with the law enforcement. Your way of thinking is completely illogical.

            Have you even looked up the evidence that hes innocent? All your sources are main stream media, and we all know they lie all the time. Its their job to lie.

          • runnerbp

            another example of believing the imaginary over the hard evidence…. reality is hard…. sometimes it hits you in the head

          • Arminius

            You missed a spot with your tinfoil hat: right there, just above your ear.
            Be careful, or the government rays will seep in again, and overpower the voices in your head.

            Can’t be too careful, Sakeeta…

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            are u threatening her/him-this is not Israel v. Palestine this is United States of America where there is free f——g speech

          • jamie121

            Oh Jesus, fer fucksakes.

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            Bingo

          • Jess

            “There is so much evidence from so many sources…” Fox News doesn’t count, runner. Neither does CNN who recanted almost every “BREAKING NEWS” headline they reported about the Boston Marathon Bombing/Watertown Shooting. Who does that leave? Eye-witnesses who were actually there and saw what happened, right? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe there have been several whistleblowers (government employed and all) and average Joe Shmoe’s who deny with absolute certainty that these events were committed by the Tsarnaev brothers, and even more witnesses who can testify to being warned of a “drill” that happened the day of the Marathon. Using mainstream media as a “source” and I-have-the-story-first-bullshit as “evidence” is deeply concerning.

          • runnerbp

            Sorry friend….too many sources. Your conspiracy is equivalent to an “everyone is looking at me” paranoia. It’s like saying nothing exists unless you participate in it. In fact are you sure the you that you think you are is real and participating? Prove it.

          • Jess

            “Sorry… [there are obviously] too many sources [to list],” said every brainwashed media robot there ever was. And for the record, I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m a realist. I base my view points off of logic and solid evidence, not hearsay.

          • Shelagh Delves-Broughton

            No u r a conspiracy theorist unable to hear how ridiculous you sound

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            Really then here is a conspiracy for you, is Israel stealing Arab land and killing them for land and artifacts?

          • runnerbp

            I’m not aware of that take on things. I think it’s about time the Palestinians got a homeland and I think it should be done now. Israel should stop building in contested lands .and Arab and Persian groups should stop treating Palestinians like dirt as well

          • Shelagh Delves-Broughton

            I have a funny feeling that “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is number 1 in your library and that you do very little but rant away on the Internet bout every Jewish conspiracy you can dream up as well as every anti Muslim conspiracy…..you poor deluded fool.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Cowan/100001288048855 Paul Cowan

            That’s not a conspiracy theory, though, is it?

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          • Jana Stewart

            and that’s exactly what a brainwashed robot living in a mental coma would say, you demonstrated that perfectly. we know you are participating in creating another Germany 70 yrs ago with your words and are part of the American nightmare, gestapo and all. and they’ve got you believing its for your own safely and security – WOW…

          • LiberalHypocrisy

            Please seek professional help.

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            Brain washed pro Israel Media in favor of a Muslim kid-Gosh I have not had a good laugh for ages but today I did-u sad sorry pathetic homophobic clones every fricking US Media wants blood but only Muslim blood they suck it taste it inhale it and pass the taste on to their kids

          • runnerbp

            so define “solid” and “here say” for me. There are hundreds of pieces of information that point directly to DT and it is quite logical to conclude that he, even by his own admission, is a fanatical murderer.

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            the older brother was in custody stripped naked when shot, or produce the accomplice who was striped naked by police. This kid is innocent of all crimes except one-he is Muslim and thereby fair game

          • runnerbp

            Sorry dude or dudette. He and his bro are murderers and I don’t care what fanatical reason they had for it. If you are a Muslim I am fine with that. But don’t use a persecution complex to create an imaginary reality.

          • Arminius

            Look, chief: the correct answer isn’t usually somewhere between the extremes. Gravity exists, or not? Well, the answer isn’t ‘sometimes’.

            Sophistry is fun. But, it’s also typically bull***t.
            As you so elegantly exemplify.
            Thanks for playing.

          • Guest

            I didn’t understand your comment until I read back my own. “Weren’t committed by the Tsarnaev brothers.” Were not. That was my mistake, hopefully you understand my point now.

          • Jess

            Exactly. Either the Tsarnaev brothers bombed the Boston Marathon, or they didn’t. They killed the MIT officer, or they didn’t. They hijacked a car and threatened the hostage’s life, or didn’t. There’s absolutely no room for gray area in this case. Yet testimonies given by lead witnesses (i.e. Danny, the “anonymous” car-jacking victim) have coincidentally changed not once, not twice, but THREE times (each recorded and published by MSM) to cover up the truth. And what about contradicting statements made by runners and bystanders at the marathon who were warned about a “drill” and asked to “keep calm”. Why is government denying that such a drill took place? Were these people just making it up — were they pulling it out of their asses? What about the statement made by BPD claiming Jahar Tsarnaev had a weapon in the boat with him and attempted to commit suicide before capture, missed, and that’s how the wound on his throat came about. But this was later recanted, as investigators discovered that, in fact, no weapon was found in the boat and pictures (like the ones above) reveal no neck wound at all before he climbed out. Meaning he sustained the injury while in the care of BPD after capture. And why was it originally reported that the neck wound was a gunshot wound, when in an interview, an officer (I assume accidentally) admitted that it looked more life a knife gash. Like someone had taken a knife to his neck in an attempt to silence him.

            So, yes. You’re absolutely right. The answer isn’t between the extremes. There can only be a right or wrong answer. I encourage you to do all the research — look at the “evidence”, read all the interviews, study every picture closely, listen to the scanner audio…

            and rethink yours.

          • runnerbp

            I can only say YIKES!!! Do you drive a car? If so I am really scared because you probably think the government put stop lights up as a conspiracy to make you think you have to stop….. but you know better…. don’t you…

          • Jess

            I drive a car that has twice been ticketed by street cameras controlled by for-profit companies. Which appear to be everywhere nowadays, our government must be broke… oh wait.

          • juststacey

            So in other words, you were caught breaking the law.

          • Jess

            You shouldn’t fear for me, you should fear for you. I know I do. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to believe our government is capable of such things. You are naive, runner. Do this country, my generation, and future generations a favor by reading up on wikileaks, CISPA, US drone strikes, (most recently) NSA spying, etc., etc. before you jump to the defense of people who are trying to strip you of civil liberties.

          • P1tsz

            This is the best statement that supports INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BY TRIAL. I’m a catholic not a Muslim. But I don’t judge either.

          • Jana Stewart

            great, a human awake, aware with a mind of their own speaking words of sanity and fact. nice to meet you amidst the bleating of the brainwashed sheep mentality of most here arguing and fighting for their limitations! if interested in the truth of this ‘event’ go to change dot org and sign the petition The United Nations – Investigate the Involvement of the US Government in the Boston Bombings.

          • LiberalHypocrisy

            You need help. Seriously.

          • runnerbp

            OK. You tell who counts. I would certainly not use any single source for “facts”.

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          • Jana Stewart

            conspiracy theory is a phrase that govt and its main stream media feeding tube created to keep perpetuating myth of their version of truth in play with the average blindly believing ‘sheep’ mentality that laps it up without a single question or inquiry of their own. in sociology it’s called uncritical thinking and is the most dangerous of all – case in point the mass of blindly believing German citizens 70 yrs ago. get very familiar with it people because that is what you have created in the US complete with thousands of gestapo brainwashed military and police in tanks with assault weapons invading streets and peoples’ homes looking for one unarmed scholarship university student / Harvard life guard. you tell me you don’t live in a martial law police state, citizens having their constitutional rights, freedoms and privacy taken away by that righteous ‘service to the people’ govt you think you’ve got – a real American nightmare. wake up people- get minds of your own…

          • KC

            You are arguing with DHS/CIA disinfo agents and provocateurs, no normal American in their right mind is willing to go to bat so hard with persistence to defend the government. They most likely don’t even live in the US. …Alex Jones first broke the story of the false flag, they have pics at infowars.com and utube of the exploded backpack with a logo on it,up close the logo is from ”CRAFT” mercenary services. Another pic shows the CRAFT ops wearing the exact backpack with the logo, now the pic of kids without the so called ”bullet wound” in his throat…they cut his throat….don’t waste your time with these idiots…the new world order is going to swallow them are their families up too.

          • Jana Stewart

            ya I know. thanks for sharing KC. I’m aware of the mosquitoes and what they do but they’re irrelevant. maybe they’re desperate for a paycheque to feed their kids and keep their homes. I hear ya!

          • Name

            Yes KC, I should have my government paycheck in the mail by Thursday.

            You know what, you should probably kill your family and yourself before we (the NWO) come and do it more painfully in the FEMA camps. I await with anticipation to see your blood run thick on the news :)

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            No there is no reality check except a open court case not a military tribunal or a secret court but until an open unbiased court with peers as jurors convict an innocent man as proven guilty in a court of law not under the patriots act or some Kangaroo Court

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            innocent until proven guilty was what my forefathers set as the underlying rules-everything else including the Patriots act is a violation of the principals upon which this country was built upon

          • daitheflu29

            Umm innocent until proven guilty is used in the court of law / not court of public opinion

          • hodgicus

            The truth about the Lusitania was declassified in the 70s, when the WWI generation was in their dotage and dying off. Many, many, many dittos to come.

          • ByTheWay

            So your opinion is that governments have never attacked their own citizens to push an agenda? Say like gun control or more spying by NSA to be justified. CIA had never done anything to help push and agenda? Hummm, that isn’t the history I have read.

          • jamie121

            The general opinion is that you would have to have a pretty predetermined point of view and reason to want him to be innocent to not see that that’s not the case in this situation.

          • ByTheWay

            No, it means I don’t buy or swallow everything the media tries to sell. I step back and look at the facts not hearsay.

          • MrCrackKills

            By definition, everything you “step back and look at” as “fact,” is truly hearsay, because you weren’t there to directly witness any of it. In truth, you are still only doing what most others are doing. Taking in the information provided to you and forming your own opinion about it. Unless you were there, and witnessed the acts of the accused with your own eyes and ears, it is all hearsay to you. Don’t get all high and mighty like you are better than everyone else and can tell the truths from the fallacies in events that you had no involvement with.

            That being said, here is my opinion. I doubt that the government fabricated all this information to make this scumbag look guilty when he was actually innocent. How would they make him engage in pursuits with the police while throwing improvised explosives at them? It’s one thing to frame someone and have them peacefully arrested in their home. It’s another to frame them and then have them try to kill police officers and run over their own brother while trying to escape.

          • Jana Stewart

            illustrating your own opinion in last statements are factless hallucination. check fact – the brothers’ uncle works with the CIA for several years, lived with and married a daughter of former CIA vice chairman of house ‘intelligence’ council Graham E. Fuller. fact- kid wore light color backpack with NO WEIGHT in it before and AFTER explosions in photo and vid. at the scene eyewitness reports that police suv ran over older brother and shot him multiple times AFTER being in custody. photo here shows unarmed kid climbing out of boat by himself not saturated in blood. a few minutes later AFTER being in custody is arriving to hospital in critical condition unable to speak. just a few facts.

          • LiberalHypocrisy

            Sorry, he looks pretty but he’s a murderer. Face it.

          • MrCrackKills

            “Not saturated in blood?” Are we looking at the same picture? His face, hands, and hoodie are all covered in blood! Also, what do your listed “facts” have to do with this kid’s actions? None of the Police forced him to make or use homemade bombs, or shoot at Police. The kid’s a scumbag, plain and simple.

          • Sally Turnip

            The FBI loves to play these games. In the WTC bombing in 1993, the FBI infiltrated a group of terrorist (The Blind Sheik) planning to bomb the WTC by placing a bomb in the parking garage. Instead of arresting them, they got an operative inside and he was supposed to supply them with explosives that DIDN’T WORK. Well they decided to get their material from another source, disappeared on the operative, and there was a bombing. The talk on the playground is a similar situation in Boston. The problem here was the two boys went “Off the Reservation” and they lost track of them. They know something was going to happen because they helped in the planning, but they lost them. That’s why the manhunt during the marathon. That’s why all the agencies searching, but not finding. The Government knew everything, but they thought they could stop it and save face. They guessed wrong.

          • Scott Carriere

            How did engage the police? He had no gun! No gun was found. And for government lies, well lets see,,,, gulf of Tomkin, government lie,,,,,,,,USS liberty,,,government lie,,,,,,,,9-11,,,government lie,,,,,,,,,,,reigstag building in Germany,,, government lie,,,,, how many more would you like. Believing the government is delusional.

          • Name

            We’ve got a nut job conspiracy theorist on the loose.

          • P1tsz

            Correct

          • LiberalHypocrisy

            Did you look at the photos of him placing the backpack next to the little boy killed and his sister? Or, do facts like those not support your argument so you just don’t consider them.

          • ByTheWay

            No, I am not aware of those photos please provide link.

          • hodgicus

            No, I didn’t see that on camera and neither did you.

          • Victor

            Glad to know you are so smart and able to figure this stuff out. Remind us of that the next time you are accused and people want to kill you.

          • crankyoldone

            Brought to you by those same folks that served up Bengazi and ” it was a Video “!

          • jamie121

            Right, because that conspiracy theory hasn’t been debunked a million times.

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            There is tons of evidence that the whole thing was planned, and faked. That they were completely innocent. The problem is, you are only looking for evidence that hes guilty. Look for the evidence that hes innocent, there is a lot more of it.

          • ignatzman

            You are frighteningly delusional, I am sure you also believe that the Holocaust never happened and that the Jews or the American Government or both orchestrated the 9/11 attacks

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            So u have been watching the international news after all!

          • Scott Carriere

            Oh come on you not one of those dummies that believe 19 men crawled out of a cave and got lucky. That they went to school for a couple of hours and became expert pilots. That a building ” # 7″ never hit by a plane and had a few small fires collapses into it’s own basement at free fall speed. that fires can burn for weeks underground without oxygen. come on your not that dumb,,,are you?

          • ignatzman

            In my life I have noticed that conspiracy theorists like yourself are almost always frustrated individuals who are glaring failures in one or multiple important aspects of their lives be it financially ,socially or whatever. The 9/11 attacks were years in the planning and well financed . The terrorists did not emerge from caves and some lived in the US for extended periods.. The pilots attended flight schools for many hours and I believe that some or all were officially certified to fly the planes that were used .In order for this to be a government operation it would have had to have been an operation that required the cooperation and silence of so many individuals as to make it logically impossible. There is a better chance of a snowstorm outside of where I am writing this where it is 100 degrees then there is that the government orchestrated 9/11 I am sure you believe the Jews did it as part of some vast Zionist conspiracy.

          • daitheflu29

            Crawled out of caves ? These were Saudis / not some cave dwelling Taliban .. You realize how many thousands of people it would take to coordinate 911 and then rely on not one person to step forward admitting involvement .. Conspiracy theorist pick out only the evidence that advances their theories. Every possible piece of evidence you’ll say points to a conspiracy can be shown as not being a conspiracy at all – the way you do that is by weighing everything together then making a sound judgement based on the facts presented. Building 7 wasn’t hit by a plane but was hit by the collapse of a 1300ft tower.

          • Scott Carriere

            so getting hit by a tower causes collapse , at free fall speed into the basement?

          • Scott Carriere

            They said they pulled the building. THEY SAID THAT.

          • Arminius

            Yes, especially the people who were killed or dismembered. Giving up a limb or two to put on a show is QUITE the demonstration of acting ability, yes?

            Shameful.

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            Not really that is real only the real killers are not

          • Sarah Roberts

            If I had lost any of my limbs in a bombing,I’d be livid over people calling me a liar,how about you??.Not a single word has been said by the outraged victims, while they are basically being called stinkin’ liars .Doesn’t that seem odd to you?There are supposedly; ‘at least 260 victims’,( which to this day, the number of victims continues to remain fluid) and not a one of them has made so much as a peep over being referred to as frauds!

          • P1tsz

            Right

          • bostonmeg

            Sakeeta – WERE YOU THERE?

            Do you know any of the police who worked for days on this case? Know anyone injured or killed?

            No?

            Then please shut up about the “conspiracy”. It’s insulting. And for the record none of us were glooking for evidence of his guilt. These two brain trusts thought that engaging the police in a gun battle in a residential area was a smart move and then he wrote out his confession in detail inside the boat.

            Don’t bother ripping me a new one – I already know what you will say but I was on that corner that day & will never forget it.

          • Sarah Roberts

            Exactly, what corner would that be?You just compressed the entire Tsarnaev saga into a couple of sentences.So, you say there is some magical corner where the entire thing could be witnessed?Sounds more than likely that you have a crystal ball,seeing as you are so absolutely sure.Are you a wizard?Wow,a wizard!

          • bostonmeg

            I just borrowed your crystal ball since you are convinced that that Mr Tsarnaev couldn’t possibly have done what he has said he did. It’s all a conspiracy by the Government or we are all rushing to judgment right?

            Since you have obviously never been to Boston, let alone where the finish line is (if you had you would know that Darmouth Street intersects with Boylston Street, hence a corner, and from that vantage point on Marathon Monday you saw enough to see the carnage caused by the blasts.

          • Sarah Roberts

            That’s right Sakeeta.Actually all anyone has to do is be observant when reading,or watching anything concerning this case.Discrepancies abound.How about an extremely doped up Jeff Bauman(surgical painkillers)identifying Tamerlan Tsarnaev as the man who placed a backpack on the ground.He ‘looked into the eyes of the man that was going to try to kill him’.But wait,he then describes him as wearing dark hat,black jacket & sunglasses.If he was wearing sunglasses,how’d you ‘look him in the eyes’ numbnuts?

          • JulieInAustin

            It’s not at all unheard of for a younger sibling who is isolated from his family to be influenced to do absolutely horrible things by an older sibling, or some other charismatic figure, with an agenda.

            I don’t think the guy is innocent, but I’m waiting for the rest of the facts to come out. And that seems very constitutional-right-to-be-tried-by-a-jury and not so tried-by-court-of-public-opinion.

          • bostonmeg

            I don’t give a hoot if his brother pressured him into this – he was old enough to know that it was wrong and as an adult he is accountable for his actions.

            I hope he gets his day in court. I hope he has a story to tell that explains some of it but there is no justification for doing what he & his brother did.

          • Rod F

            It’s called ‘due process’ but as a criminal attorney you should already know that.

          • GlobalWorldNewsGuru

            Halleluiah

          • FreqZeus

            Your kafkaesque line of reasoning is exactly why we have the need to prove guilt BEFORE we condemn any person (whether innocent or guilty).

            Do you think that what the media produces, alone, is enough to rule against a suspect?

            If that happened, I’d start obeying the media, before the law itself, and in that situation, so should everyone too.

            As a point for you to ponder: if an action done by someone to break down the social system in which we live, ends up removing freedom of speech, or the right to a fair trial. Would that attempt have failed, in its goals?

          • ignatzman

            Your comment is intellectual babble, makes no sense and the use of the term Kafkaesque does not make you intelligent. The point of my comment is simple and irrefutable .In a court of law an accused is protected by all rights guaranteed by our constitution. Outside of courts individuals are free to render opinions based upon available information. This is protected by the first amendment. It is the responsibility of the legal system to make sure that outside influences do not prevent a fair trial for an accused.

          • FreqZeus

            There you go again, blindly dismissing without reason. So the reasons, that you think you know, are enough for a guilty verdict, no, punishment itself?
            The use of a one term, does not make me intelligent, but your continued dismissal of anything but your opinion, proves that you aren’t.
            Your pitchfork looks like it nearly sees the shed. The facts are not out. The case has just started to move towards that part. I think that he MAY have killed 3 people, but the court will have be better equipped to judge him.

            This isn’t an open and shut case. In the aurora case, the guy killed 12, and no one doubt’s or contests that. The matter at question in that case, is why. In this situation, no one has definitive proof yet.
            I hope the guy in the article gets justice, no less, and no more. I personally think that he looks more guilty, than innocent, but that is not my call.

          • ignatzman

            Based on your comment it seems that we agree more than disagree. My commenting on this subject began in response to someone implying that the public had no right to voice an opinion on this individuals guilt because he was innocent until proven guilty. I responded by explaining that innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept applicable only in a court of law and that the public is entitled to express opinions on the subject. The last three lines of your latest comment are completely reasonable and fit exactly into my original point.You are exercising your first amendment rights and I would endorse it word for word except I would add the word way before more guilty. The final call is of course a court of law

          • FreqZeus

            We do agree on most points, but we don’t agree on everything.

            Now our freedom gives us the right to speak freely, but not without exceptions.

            Innocent till proven guilty, is not only a legal tool or concept, it is how he is regarded in all but personal opinion. No one has a right to force anyone to say something, or withhold it, so long as that doesn’t step on the rights of others. That is a small exception, but a key one, in regards to our statements (not views) towards the accused.

            The court should find him guilty, that’s where the ball seems to be rolling. I can’t really see any way for him to walk out of this case. What is it, 17 counts that could carry a life sentence?
            I’d want him to buy me a lottery ticket, if he walked out.

          • Sarah Roberts

            I am certain that the evidence must be weak,I’ve discovered through my own investigation that it is down right pathetic .No defense attorney is going to counsel their client to plea not guilty to all charges.A plea agreement dropping many of the charges in exchange for life in prison would be the standard.I wonder if Edward Snowden knows a little something about this case? They have an ace up their sleeve,take my word for it.

          • hodgicus

            It is always facile to gobble one side of a story whole before hearing the other.
            There is a great deal of reasonable debate to which the evidence is subject.
            The frantic campaign to color the evidence black and smear it across the public mind is more reasonably suspect than the bloody unarmed man in these photos.

          • jaimzdean

            ignatzman…as a criminal attorney, ignoring all other ‘evidence’ you ‘know’ of in this case, what do the photos above say to you? that is, are these photo’s by themselves enough to say the man covered in blood is guilty of the crimes he’s accused of. and if not, then what other evidence that you explicitly know of, what other evidence can be used in conjuction with these photo’s that might clarify your stance that Tsarnaev is guilty?

          • Steven

            Does the phrase “lynch mob” ring a bell?

          • wytworm

            …or a gong!

          • DD4D

            Great band…

          • LouAnnWatson

            zimmerman

          • mlaperle

            Your opinion depends on the circumstances. What is driving public opinion? Is it a bunch of misguided race baters as in the case of George Zimmerman? Or is it common sense analysis of the facts at hand, as in the case with the POS Boston Bomber? Key term: “common sense”.

          • DD4D

            Common sense would dictate that when an official asks you NOT to pursue someone, and you do, and you kill that person (who is about half your age), you’re a douche bag and you get what you deserve. I can’t wait until I read about Zimmerman dying at the hands of a vigilante. I’ll frame that shit.

          • Anthony

            Would you kindly walk down my street, you see I’m also a community watch person.
            p.s, don’t forget your hoodie.

          • pbob67

            And who/what is the driving force behind the public opinion?

          • LiberalHypocrisy

            I guess the photos of him dropping the explosive backpack casually next to the 8 year old boy who died and his sister pretty much told me what he was.

          • Nick099

            Well said. I agree.

          • sandlapper

            OMG – thank you! Awesome comment.

          • @nickk330

            Just look at the pictures… He supposedly had a throat wound that didn’t allow him to talk. But in the pictures, his throat looks fine. Or we can look at the fact the FBI is blocking the autopsy release of an acquaintance of the younger brother who lived in Florida who the FBI questioned and then shot twice in the head (all while he was unarmed). Or lets look at the fact the younger brother wasn’t armed but yet the police shot dozens of bullets into the boat. Or the fact that there is no evidence that the brothers ever had the bombs or placed the bombs at the event. Or the fact that this event only killed three people but yet the region of Boston was turned into a martial law zone. Or that there is no evidence that the brothers ever stole a car or killed the police officer. It’s all just stuff they have told us happened. The same people who cover up the NSA spying, PRISM, Benghazi, killing of innocents with drones… and we are just supposed to believe what they tell us?

          • Kelsey Randolph

            clearly in one of these pictures you can see an officer putting pressure on the side of the neck.
            Let’s not be stupid. Of course they aren’t telling us everything…and rightfully so. Can you imagine what the general population would be like if we knew every dirty detail? Riots would be out of control. They are keeping as much peace as the can. They aren’t going to show the public every miniscule detail they’ve found for charges against this man, it’s an open case. They don’t share the findings of every other case so why show us this.
            It is because of people like you that they do not share everything. I would be ashamed to know what you would do with that kind of information. “You can’t handle the truth”
            I’m just glad I can live in my home knowing I’m not in the middle of a rebel war…fighting for my life.

          • @nickk330

            He was talking when he came out of the boat, he obviously was fine until the FBI got a hold of him. What would cause riots? if they admitted it was a false flag (you probably don’t know what that is) event? How can you saw “rightfully so”? The government works for us, we should be able to know almost everything (except for cases of national security, which this is not the case). Don’t believe that the government knows whats best for you. Only you know whats best for you.

          • J. REX CROUCH

            The Koch Bros run the world. You only THINK you have a “HOME”. The “Governments” of the “Countries” of the are world are now only pro-forma shells. Empathy has no chance against “industrialized” Greed. “Humanity” is being trampled by the boots of mankind’s “PROGRESS”.

          • Geezergardener

            The injury was on his left side and in the dark so it’s unseen.

          • @nickk330

            He was talking when he got out of the boat. And an injury to the side of the neck wouldn’t effect the vocal cords which are located in the front.

          • guest

            were you there? i didnt think so, so how exactly would you know he was talking, because someone told you so im still trying to figure out your facts? you claim all of the ones that the public receive are from the gov’t and media and they are just lies pure lies, so what are your sources?

          • Kev Mercer

            Did you lose a 8 year old son, brother. Did you lose a 25 year old brother, father. Is your sister going to be using prosthetic limbs for the rest of her life. “Only Three People”, was it one of your family members, a loving husband, a daughter from a far off land. Injured 200 plus people, Killed a policeman, were on their way to NYC to do the same thing they did here in Boston. Found in a stolen car, attempting to evade the police. Come on multiple bullets in the boat, this idiot wouldn’t have survived, he would have looked like Swiss cheese.when they carried him out. Conspiracy, conspiracy and more conspiracies. Fact is they got this moron and his idiot brother dead to rights.

          • @nickk330

            I don’t know why the type of person that died or was injured has any relevance to the inaccuracies of the storyline. Again, show some evidence, besides the FBI saying it, that the brothers killed a police officer or that they stole the car. As for the multiple bullets, just take a look at the boat. http://i.imgur.com/pGucRB5.jpg

          • bfiller

            Why do you believe this picture isn’t fake too?

          • Ralfine

            Are you really interested in the suffering of innocent people?

            Would you ask the same questions to all the families killed by US drones?

          • Kev Mercer

            I didn’t vote for your Imperial President, I don’t condone the drone attacks. I don;t like the fact that the NSA, FBI, CIA or whatever other Acronym you would like to mention spies on Americans.. Talk to the gentleman that had his car stolen, talk the family of the officer that was shot and killed. The mother and father of the child killed. Fact is they got these guys dead to right. Due process, what about due process for the victims in this carnage. They are terrorist, they will always be terrorist, they lived the life of terrorist and they will die like most terrorist either by their hand or the hand of justice. In their case just has prevailed. My only hope is he will be charged in the Federal system so all possible punishments are on the table.

            Rolling Stone magazine is a piece of garbage, and to compare him to Jim Morrison is a travesty.

          • Ralfine

            Who tells you it was him and not some three letter agency, in order to get you closer to martial law?
            And if you wanted to prevent future attacks, would it be helpful to learn how this happened?
            Supposedly done by someone who grew up in America?
            Where did you fail to instill in him the idea of freedom?

          • Kev Mercer

            Conspiracy, conspiracy theories. He done it, now is the time for him to pay the piper. I didn’t fail him, the country didn’t fail him. He and his brother failed themselves. Time to resurrect “Old Smokey” for this murdering terrorist.

          • Ralfine

            If you never ask why, you will always come after the crime, filling up your prisons until nobody is left in the “land of the free”.

            You are like a doctor who is happy of all the sick people because they make him rich.

          • kenuch

            You wasting your time trying to make some sense with potential terrorists. People who if they had the chance, would have acted worse than these two piece of **** brothers.

          • MrSmith210

            Hey “Kev” … Bush used drones too. And the spying you’re mad about ALL stems from the “Patriot Act” that Bush put in place. So your obsession to obviously want to pin today’s “spying” issues on the Obama admin. is, well.. as usual.. wrong. Granted Obama hasn’t undone any of the things the Bush admin put in place, but if you think that would even be possible without people like you lining up to claim he’s a terrorist you’re delusional. Do some research and look into where drones came from. Also look into the legality of why gov’t agencies are allowed to spy on us. Where were you when the rest of us normal people weren’t loving every terrible move the Bush admin made and freaking out about the “Patriot Act” !? Instead of now seeing it’s results in action and now acting like it somehow is about our “Imperial President” and his doings? Pathetic bro. Pathetic.

          • ByTheWay

            So I assume you agree with the NDAA that Obama signed by executive order on Dec,31, 2011 when congress was out of session? When will people realize there are no left or right” It is to give you an illusion of choice when in reality they are one in the same. A great picture of this is to imagine going down two hallways one goes left and the other goes right but which ever you choose leads you straight to the slaughter house.

          • RUKIDDING

            Yea, it’s all just stuff. I’m sure your right about all your FACTS. Get real…………..

          • jill815

            So I guess the picture where they are applying pressure to a wound on his neck are posed. You do know that once it enters the body, a bullet continues to travel and can do damage internally? And his brother was older, not younger. And the interviews with the guy whose car they stole were all over the media. I’ll bet you think we never landed on the moon, either.

          • @nickk330

            No, I said the younger brother’s acquaintance from Florida. I know the older brother is dead. The acquaintance was a friend of the younger brother who was shot dead by the FBI at his home in Florida. Why would they shoot an unarmed kid? Chances are, because he knew too much about what really happened. Also, I do believe we got to the moon. (Besides there’s more proof of us landing on the moon than there is evidence of the brothers doing the bombing…)

          • ME-B

            I agree. Just because the cops say he wrote “Fuck America” inside the boat doesn’t make it so. Where are the photos? Where is the proof? At first I discounted a lot of the conspiracy theories regarding this, but a lot of what I’ve read doesn’t add up. When the boy showed up for his court date, why did US Marshals have to be there? Hummers? Really? The uncle in Maryland is incredibly well-off. How did that happen? The government is up to something, something here is being covered up; I wonder if we will ever find out what that is.

          • runnerbp

            Why don’t you go to the victims and analyze their wounds for accuracy. What a bunch of paranoid delusional crap.

          • @nickk330

            I present facts, you present insults. Typical of someone who is blind to what is really going on around them.

          • Griffin

            Idiots like you are the Reason why criminal attorneys have such a bad reputation!

          • ignatzman

            On the contrary. You are obviously clueless and uneducated as to any aspect of our country’s legal system. More than likely you are clueless and uneducated in most matters. I and many others fear for the future of our country,

          • wytworm

            presumption of innocence n. a fundamental protection for a person accused of a crime, which requires the prosecution to prove its case against the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt. This is opposite from the criminal law in many countries, where the accused is considered guilty until he/she proves his/her innocence or the government completely fails to prove its case

          • ctuton

            This is one of the things wrong with the public-mind at large. It is willing to convict people without any evidence proving guilt. It is willing to form opinions and policy without any facts. The ignorant and uninformed public moves in the direction it is told to move by those who control the message and spin. You are a highly manipulated individual without objectivity. I would not hire you to defend me if you were the last attorney on Earth.

          • JAM726

            I believe you meant piece of human excrement*

          • Ralfine

            So? Then other people are entitled to their opinion as well? Even if theirs differs from yours?

          • ByTheWay

            I am shocked by your statement! Especially after the knowledge of Tawana Crawley and Duke Lacrosse. Those were all lies and yet the public was ready to lynch them before they were found innocent and so called victims admitted to lying.

          • ignatzman

            Of course the first amendment is subject to abuse and misuse. It even protects Nazis who put forth their filth. The two cases you cited are nothing like the Boston case. Absent some vast government conspiracy which is extremely unlikely and paranoid, this individuals guilt is overwhelming.

          • BoDogit3

            “this individuals guilt is overwhelming” <– really?
            Rather than arguing over the voluntary nature of alleged confessions of people we are told are in such grave condition they cannot speak and who were not provided legal counsel. How about you just direct us to the video of this kid planting a pressure cooker that we have all been told exists but has never been shown. That should be help establish his guilt you defacto state is overwhelming. So far all I have seen is that he was at the marathon with a light colored backpack that doesn't match the description of the black backpacks that were used. No offense but that should be simple enough considering they told us the video exists. No tin foil hats required. Just link the video.

          • ByTheWay

            Educate yourself on MKULTRA.

          • crankyoldone

            And I believe it was MY GOVERNMENT !

          • BoDogit3

            of course and if you are a criminal attorney and have ever tried a case that received even moderate media attention you are also completely aware that the information released to the media is often done so to sell a point, theory, and or confuse or taint a jury pool. Rarely is the media correct if the story came from prosecution source prior to trial.

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            A criminal attorney? That is a great reason NOT TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING YOU SAY.

            You are part of the system, part of the lies and deception.

          • canardnoir

            Needed and well put.

            Thanks!

          • David Jenest

            BRAVO Ignatzman – Political correctness is dumbing down America. We are a great coumtry where any one who works hard, is responsible for their own actions, and respects others can succeed in life no matter their race, politics or faith.

            Sgt. Sean Murphy should appear on the next cover of Rolling Stone as a hero! It about time to fight back. Inside if might be appropriate to put up a photo of the dead and mangled bodies of Tsarnaev’s VICTIMS. Oh wait, the media and the ACLU would have a fit over that. Better to bash a cop than a killer!

          • Antonia Ydal

            As are u no doubt a piece of human debris

          • ignatzman

            You obviously have a highly developed mind.What a brilliant and well thought out response!

          • Victor

            nice to know you ‘believe’ that based on the crap you have been fed by the media. forest for the trees attorney… .forest for the trees.

            Wake up.

          • CSI America

            Remind me never to have you represent me.

          • croyco

            Remind me to NEVER allow you to represent me.

          • ignatzman

            Since you are too ignorant to understand the difference between the first amendment and the protections afforded accused individuals in our legal system , I seriously doubt that you could afford me.

          • Nick099

            Yep….true. But I bet it will be kinda hard to prove innocence with images of this young fellow escaping in a vehicle running over his brother’s body in the process. You know the body with the gun in his hand after shooting a cop????

          • Dave

            The difference is like the black community in the Zimmerman case, the decision was made before he ever had his day in court. For Tsarnev it was innocent no matter what for Zimmerman, guilty no matter what.

          • disqus_CuhrLDpPHQ

            Guilty until proven innocent comes to my mind.

          • pbob67

            so how did that one work for Zimmerman?

          • jill815

            did you apply the same thinking to the zimmerman case?

          • Joseph Boyd

            Actually, yes. According to the local laws regarding stand-your-ground, Zimmerman was innocent of 2nd degree murder.

            He still killed a guy, he was still in the wrong, but he is innocent of the charges brought against him. I agree with the court’s decision, even while I disagree with the law.

            Fortunately for all of us, he still has to live with the social stigma and guilt…

            Back to the topic on hand, our government has subverted the right to a fair trial and obscured the facts. I assume Tsarnaev is innocent until both a preponderance of evidence has been brought against him, and he has had a chance for a publicly available rebuttal.

          • guest173

            Would you like this murderer to babysit your kids while he awaits his conviction?

          • iloveumore

            You know he did admit to this right?

          • BoDogit3

            right he admitted it with a hole in his neck that he couldn’t speak through….

          • Amy Amrap

            This is a forum, not a court of law.

          • Osamas Pajamas

            Of course, but “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” is a legal concept that has no control on the right of the public to publicly argue and advance their views of guilt or innocence — and no one is obliged to wait for a jury to tell them what to think and say. Rolling Stone may think that Tsarnaev is a cutie. I don’t and I won’t.

          • Marrkedman

            You know what, when millions of Americans can see current images of these slime balls in the act of shooting it out with police – I would think that would constitute beyond reasonable doubt.

          • Munitor

            People like me is the reason why there would not be the need of any police. Believe me. And if HERE we can make assumptions about people; lesser if police is gonna be made out of people like you. If you are police you would need to be real useful in such case, maybe that’s why you think you are thankful now.

          • JonaD

            Every criminal believes he is justified.

          • Laurie Davis

            So does every tyrannical leader.

          • Nick099

            Yes…there are soooo many innocent men sentenced to jail….just ask them.

          • Nick099

            1) Learn English.
            2) Learn how to write.
            3) Seek medical attention.

          • Lewis Smith

            Aren’t we supposed to be innocent until proven guilty?

          • JonaD

            No. That’s a fantasy.

          • Bruce Boelter

            When there are pictures of you placing the bomb, you are proven guilty.

          • Helluva3ngineer

            Could you please forward a copy of those to me in email?

          • Steve

            Or the guy who owns the boat who said he saw a ton of blood in the boat before calling the police…

          • Nick099

            “a ton” ….that a lot of blood isn’t it???

          • Nick099

            Imbecile.

          • Unknown1776

            please, not our fault you apparently were not paying attention to the situation in Boston at the time. There’s more than enough evidence given the events of those days to prove he is guilty. It sounds to me like too many people here are copies of his mother:

            delusional with the inability to accept the young man’s demise.

          • brownie107

            Besides the fact that they threw the extra pressure cookers out on the streets of Watertown, h
            ow about focusing on the kid that they hijacked, drove around and was told by the brothers that they just shot a cop…..HELLO!!!

          • Unknown1776

            agreed

          • Ed_Kel

            He still gets his day in court. The jurors WILL find him guilty, but until then we cannot forget our core American values and find him guilty before his day in court.

          • ron

            ed_kel
            I don’t think this ever sees the inside of a courtroom. With all the charges they will take the death penalty off the table and sentence him to life in prison.

          • Steve

            No we are not- The Jury needs to do that. We can believe whatever we want

          • CDODGE2

            EXACTLY!!!!

          • estragon

            yes, that’s the way it is supposed to work. i think what you are seeing here is the breaking down of what used to be a civil society.

            when ordinary citizens are so torqued that they refer to fundamental governing principles as “fantasy,” then we’re all in trouble.

            if this sort of thing were just a one off, then i think we could dismiss it, but i’m afraid is is rampant in the u.s. today.

          • Nick099

            Grow up. If you don’t know what happened in Boston…or read about it….well that explains your idiotic comment.

          • RUKIDDING

            A show of hands please. Who actually believes he is innocent?

          • DronePro

            Sadly, Munitor’s rants are true. We are not the only country to adhere to “innocent until proven guilty” however we are one of few to empower police officers with deadly power. We pride ourselves on how great we are with our liberties and the wonderful laws we have that protect, truly petty criminals. If we are to be truthful we ourselves as a society we have to understand that we have no laws for “alleged” mar murderers and people of this nature. If they are caught alive we resort to a mediocre law system however dead is better.

            We have forgotten that fight or flight is the human nature of not just humans but all living things. No one here is says this kid is innocent of anything but as a mass, we immediately sucked into what was told to us by the media, and what the media was told to say. We, not as Americans, but as humans, hardly can say we have much individuality left when it comes to assessing things for ourselves and not buying into what we are sold on a colorful screen.

            The strength to reserve judgment even in the most heinous of cases until all evidences are exhausted is stronger than one’s will to blindly give their lives for something they blindly believe to be true.

          • Karen Mader

            I don’t believe that Tsarnaev’s innocence or guilt is the question here. That is for the courts to sort out. Of course, the rest of us know unequivocably that he’s guilty. The issue is with Rolling Stone glamorizing terrorists, and giving them the media attention that they crave. The only question left is: how do we go about supporting Sergeant Sean Murphy for being brave enough to share the pictures we should have seen a long time ago?

          • BowMtnSpirit

            Speak for yourself: I don’t know him to be guilty, and neither do you. And Sean Murphy got the support currently provided in our system for providing factual information the government wants to keep secret: he got fired. Unfortunately, he didn’t do what he did for the same altruistic reasons as did William Binney, Thomas Drake, John Kiriakou and Ed Snowden. He did it out of police-state-mentality rage that the “criminal” he hates was depicted as looking human. You have that same bias.

          • Cowboydroid

            The presumption of innocence is the FOUNDATION of our legal system.

            It is tragic that a rabid hoard of internet commenters disagree. But then, that is why we live in a Republic, and not a democracy.

          • Griffin

            @TheDeuce
            Interessting that people with your thoughts are still able to live free in the 20th Century. You should be kicked back into stone age.

          • DD4D

            Do you have an argument? I missed it in the ranting.

          • Guest

            How do you know that I’m not in a position of leadership and power?

          • Sakeeta Rosen

            There has not been one bit of evidence shown that he did it. Proof that he DIDNT do it, is the fact the cops wont show any photos of their “evidence”. Its was all a faked event, planned out by the law enforcement themselves. We do NOT need police, they are corrupt and here to destroy us.

          • juststacey

            Just stop now. No sane person could possibly take you seriously.

            If you actually believe this stuff that you’re spewing then you are a danger to yourself and others and should be heavily medicated in a psychiatric institution.

          • David Jenest

            Unfortunately TheDeuce our nation does have people like Munitor in positions of leadership and power. Look no further than DOJ and IRS. Toss in the ACLU for dessert.

          • agglebert

            let me ask you a question. if you REALLY killed a bunch of people with a bomb at a public event would you stay in the area going to school, partying with friends on and off campus or would you get out??? WAKE UP!

          • Victor

            The duece…. are you serious? “assumption he is innocent’….!!!!
            HELLO !!! This is America…. we are presumed innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

            You are a very dangerous person. You are the type of person that allows tyranny to thrive.

        • Tony Wood

          As for what connects him to the attack; you mean besides the bloody note he wrote inside the boat before getting caught admitting to conducting the attack? They should have let him bleed to death..

          • Munitor

            I’ve said not to be ingenuous. “A bloodie note saying …” Do you think such note mid its circumstances is a proof of guilt. Seriously.

          • bostonmeg

            Were you there that day? Did you see the after effects of the bombing personally? Did you know that they shot MIT Officer Sean Collier for ‘no reason’ and asked the BU Grad Student if his car could go to NY? Then then two brothers proceeded to shoot it out with many, many police officers in Watertown, terrorizing an entire neighborhood, almost killing Officer Dic Donahue? Seriously you come here and ask what makes him guilty – other than his actions? Nothing but he will have his day in court where he can tell his side of the story. He doesn’t need to be glamorized on the cover of the Rolling Stone or hailed as a hero so some other misguided, unhappy young person can find their way to fame by killing innocent adults & children.

          • Mark Daniels

            i’m a misguided, unhappy, young person look for a way to fame. are you saying that killing people is the way to do it?

          • bgdogboden

            treating others as you would want to be treated makes you famous, sir

          • JonaD

            Yes, that is a way, which is why we as a society should not promote it, if we as a society do not want copycats.

          • Lars C.

            The fact is that the society promotes it – want it or not.
            If you want to licence all the killings in the country to the state privilege only, then go on and demand the press shut up and change the laws.

            But as far as I’ve seen, it doesn’t work either.

          • JonaD

            Well yes, society promotes it and that is a fact… but it’s not what we should be doing.

            I do want to limit all killings to those that are tried in court, but that would be utterly unreasonable and frankly, impossible, so instead I proclaim openly and in public…

            “QUIT PROMOTING KILLING as a PUBLIC ENTITLEMENT of your FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, the CONSTITUTION was not designed to sanctify PEOPLE as equivalent to PARCHMENT! for YOU to write on!”

            … ok, thanks.

          • Nick099

            According to RS and many of the twerps here…yes.

          • bostonmeg

            I am saying that this could be interpreted as your way to fame. I am not advocating you do this as I was standing there when the bombs went off and saw the death/destruction.

          • http://twitter.com/GailC14 Gail Calhoun

            Here is a reader, bostonmeg-claiming the Tsarnaevs are the shooters who shot officer Donahue. Aren’t sheeple wonderful. Why have facts in the news at all? Bostonmeg doesn’t need any. Just let them froth at the mouth at who the FBI guided media points the finger at, that’s all they need. And there are a lot of bostonmegs out there.

          • Mark Daniels

            Yea. Shut up Meg.

          • JonaD

            FBI guided media?.. hehe PARANOID DELUSION.

          • truthsquad

            Yes, FBI Guided. Like at the Boston news conference where the FBI told the media to not look at any photographs except the ones they were showing. Don’t look at the photos that show other suspects with backpacks that actually matched, unlike Tsarnaev’s.

            You also do realize the FBI was involved in the ’93 World Trade Center bombing and provided the explosive materials? Had it not been for whistle blower Emad Salem, they would be lying about it to this day. Don’t believe me, look it up. Wake up sheeple.

          • http://www.miketheinfidel.com/ MikeTheInfidel

            “Like at the Boston news conference where the FBI told the media to not look at any photographs except the ones they were showing. Don’t look at the photos that show other suspects with backpacks that actually matched, unlike Tsarnaev’s.”

            Because they had eliminated the other people as suspects. Focusing on those people is called WITCH HUNTING, not helping.

          • truthsquad

            If those were the only two suspects, why did the FBI blast their unarmed friend Ibragim Todashev weeks later?

            Look, I don’t like believing this stuff. I wish I could go back asleep… but no one is whipping slow cooker bombs during a gun fight with heavily armed police. I’ve also never heard crazed terrorists yelling “We didn’t do it” So many problems with this whole story.

            Secure in Place, AKA. Martial Law enforced on an entire metropolis? Ripping people from their homes in robes and training “assault rifles” (their term) on innocent people and even children. Violating peoples rights to capture terrorists who hate our freedoms, to save our freedoms? This logic is seriously flawed.

            Trust me, I love this country and I want it back.

          • runnerbp

            The country you want to live in has the Tsarnev brothers wandering around blowing people like you to smithereens. Idealism becomes ridiculous when taken to it’s literal extremes.

          • truthsquad

            The country I want to live in follows the rights guaranteed by over a million dead patriots protecting the constitution and the true American way of life. The country I want to live has protections against illegal search and seizure as well as the rule of posse comitatus which outlaws a standing army in use against its citizens. Oh wait, that is where I live…. or used to.

            Is it a conspiracy theory to say that the FBI has admitted to controlling Tamerlan Tsarnaev for up to 5 years before the bombing? That doesn’t strike you as odd? I suppose he never picked up a phone, sent an email, text… Otherwise, clearly the NSA would have picked up on this plan. The sole purpose of that program is to stop terrorists, so I can only assume this is the case. (sarcasm)

          • Unknown1776

            I don’t know. Seems pretty logical to ensure those who are primary suspects get the well-deserved attention they need in order to be apprehended, but you know, then that would be LOGIC, and boy would the world stop…

          • runnerbp

            There seems to be some sort of genetic disorder that makes people believe wild irrational conspiracies. The sheeple are the wild conspiracy mongers who only love imaginary information. The real stuff freaks them out.

          • truthsquad

            Thomas Jefferson must have had the greatest genetic disorder of all…

            “When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.”

          • JonaD

            Yeah, I’ve read his ‘slant’ and his attempts to extort further money from the FBI than was negotiated for, for his role as an informant. I heard the soundtrack and read the transcript and do not come to the same conclusion as you obviously did. SO again… paranoid delusion.

          • CDODGE2

            Gail Calhoun, every time you comment on a page of some sort, you sound like an absolute idiot. You have a lot of nerve attacking bostonmeg when you can’t even spell “people.” This wasn’t a conspiracy so take a break from crazy town.

          • Bradford

            …it’s spelled SHEEPLE…, and you’re ONE of THEM, “CDODGE2″…
            …google: “Craft International”, look at the “images” results, THAN tell us what you THINK, not what your knee-jerk emotional reaction is…

          • CDODGE2

            Support some more terrorist attacks Bradford.

          • Bradford

            …like the one in West, Texas, on Weds., April 17, when a HUGE FIREBALL exploded an unregulated fertilizer plant, and *15* people were killed, including *10* firefighters?…That’s over *5*TIMES the death toll of the Boston Marathon Firecrackers…you mean “terrorist attacks” like THAT…???…
            …baaaaah, baaaah, baaaah, dude….

          • Lars C.

            It surely creates terror, having that massive amount of explosive stuff situated in the middle of a village. Like in Texas West. Having only few hundred meters to senior houses, schools, kindergarten, people homes.

            There you talk only about the deaths, but Texas West fertilizer plant blast injured hundreds of people.

            That’s terrorism justified by authorities, money and even the people themselves! But it’s so hard to see, do you see.

          • CDODGE2

            So, I am confused… Are you saying the plant explosion was a terrorist attack? Because I was talking about the Boston Marathon Attacks, Rolling Stone, and the Tsarnaev brothers…

          • Bradford

            No, I’m NOT saying the West, Tx. explosion was a “terrorist” attack, only pointing out how LITTLE media coverage it has gotten, compared to Boston, especially as Boston had such a relatively small casualty count…and, how HYPED-UP in the media Boston is…and, WHERE is the follow-up media coverage from the OTHER alleged co-conspirator to Boston, who was shot & killed by the FBI in Fla…???…We don’t know what the TRUTH is, because the media LIES to us…THAT is what I’m saying…

          • CDODGE2

            Great… Another conspiracy theorist… Give it a rest… Have a great day

          • Bradford

            …the entire main-stream-media story of the Boston Marathon Firecrackers is a “conspiracy theory”, in itself….The Tsarnaev Bros. are being set up as patsies, and dupes…Look at the Whitey Bulger/Steve Flemmi CRIME-CIRCUS trial going on in Boston right now…HOW MANY crooked & corrupt FBI agents have we seen there…???…How many crooked & corrupt cops…???…How many *CRIMINALS*…???…

          • CDODGE2

            And it is because of people like you that are infuriated about this magazine cover… Your response to the marathon bombings is “firecrackers?” Two women and an 8 year old boy lost their lives and hundreds more lost limbs. There is no comparison. The people in Texas were in Boston’s thoughts ESPECIALLY. How dare you try to twist that around. Shame on you Bradford.

          • Bradford

            Sorry, CDODGE2, but I am NOT bothered at all about the Rolling Stone cover…RS will sell TONS of this issue…and, no, I do NOT believe that “hundreds more lost limbs”…they are NOT in any photos that I can find, anywhere…Considering how much “conspiracy” crap is out there, it would be easy for the media to refute the “conspiracy nuts”…but the media isn’t doing that. WHY?….maybe it really *IS* more “conspiracy” than not…

          • Lars C.

            Don’t you know every time you say “I hate muslims” another American hater is born?

            You ignorant fool.

          • CDODGE2

            I NEVER said “I hate Muslims”… People have no problem calling people names in this forum but I’m not allowed to say what he called himself in his original post? I would love to hear the explanation for that…

          • CDODGE2

            I NEVER said I hate Muslims…

          • Unknown1776

            then*. How are there this many people out there who refuse to believe the events that transpired in Boston? There is more than enough media coverage out there looking at every single angle throughout the whole situation to more than prove the point…

          • Bradford

            OK, it’s a typo….so sue me…what’s your point…???…my point is that we have all been lied to and manipulated about what REALLY happened in Boston, for lots of reasons, and the media is hyping this whole thing up…There will NEVER be a Rolling Stone cover about the West, TX fertilizer plant explosion, even though there were 5 times the fatalities, and they were mostly first responders…

          • Lama

            I lived at 4 Franklin st. Right down the street. Don’t tell me this was all made up, you @-hole! You can take your conspiracy theory and shove it.

          • Bradford

            …it’s not “my” “conspiracy theory”, Lama…
            I’m sorry for what you went through, but that still doesn’t mean you know the *TRUTH*…Sure, there were some low-level pyrotechnics in Boston, and some injuries, *BUT*, sorry, honey, NONE of the photos show the number and severity of injuries that were reported…and, considering all the photogs&photos, where is the EVIDENCE…???…All those people lost body parts, but NOBODY got a photo of a body part…???…that’s just for starters…All I’m saying is the whole thing stinks, and it doesn’t stink muslim…Look how many sheeple thought the Tsarnaevs were from Czechoslovakia…!…
            The Tsarnaevs were being watched by the FBI for YEARS, right?…so, how’d they get away with it…???…Lama the SHEEPLE…

          • Casey

            Dude, my co-worker ran the marathon and very much assured me that there was plenty of blood and flesh. Limbs typically don’t fall off intact making for good photographic evidence. I’m also lucky enough to know a cop that was both involved in the gun fight and at the boat and she told me that it was 10 times worse then anything we saw on TV. These terrorists had some serious weapons.

          • Bradford

            My friend works for the CIA, and he told me the whole thing’s a hoax…My other friend is in the Army, and he said it was all about doing a Martial Law drill…
            …touche, dude…

          • Lama

            First off, don’t call me “honey”. You don’t

            know me and, cuz if you did I’d already have smacked the crap out of you for peddling this BS. Secondly, you’re propagating it, then its yours. Body parts from those bombs could easily have been vaporized. You refer to the initial reactions that people thought they were Czech as an example of conspiracy, that was discredited and most informed people know if to be false. Facts emerge over the course of an investigation. There was a HS runner and his coach that were ID’s by the NY POST as “Bag Men” on their cover.
            You’re too clever by half with the obfuscation and misdirections.

          • Bradford

            “…Body parts…easily have been vaporized…”…I call bullsit on THAT…I’ve seen enough REAL explosions from Syria, Iraq, etc…& my referring to the “Czech” thing was an example of mis-&dis-information & confusion, NOT “conspiracy”…
            &Thanks for admitting that I’m “too clever by half”, HONEY…lol…(…and you got the nerve to call yourself “Lama”…???…HAH!, *HONEY*…)…
            Sorry, dude, we Independents don’t intimidate easily…

          • Lama

            You’ve seen them, like you’ve been there? In Syria and Iraq? Or you’ve seen it on the news?

            At this point, bringing up the Czech thing is nothing but misdirection. It was debunked within hours of his capture.

            Obviously, you don’t understand the phrase “too clever by half”. Its NOT a compliment. Nor is DUMBASS. Both fit.

            You’re an internet tough guy. Come to Boston and openly speak this BS. My guess is you’ll vaporize as quickly as those body parts you’re looking for. If you do come, let me know. I’ll be happy to meet you and I’ll show you just how Zen I can be once I’m done with you.

            Speaking of body parts, you are one, a DICK!

          • Bradford

            …ask yourself why you are so angry and upset by all this…and why you’re so scared…I think really, you’re ashamed because you just rolled over and let the FedGov do a MARTIAL LAW DRILL in Boston, and you’re not so comfortable being a sheeple, are you…???…Birth is often a painful process, Lama, so keep pushing…

          • Lama

            Answer my question. You’ve seen real explosions yourself or you’ve seen them on TV? If tv. Go away.

            I’m so angry because people were injured and killed. I’m a runner and feel a kinship with those who were there in the race. I’ve lived in Boston and feel a kinship with the people of the city. I’ve been to the marathon several times. Its my city! Its my commonwealth! Its my people!
            As I said before, you’re an internet tough guy that doesn’t have the balls to actually speak his mind in an arena that doesn’t involve anonymity. Grow up and grow a pair. The adults are done with you. Go home. I shan’t respond, nor shall I read any further posts by you, since you’re a turd in the punch bowl.

          • Bradford

            …I still think you’re too emotional to think straight…
            “…turd in the punch bowl”, yeah, that’s a VERY MATURE comment…
            “…grow a pair”…, yeah that’s real mature, too, and SO original…
            BAAAAH, BAAAH, BAAAAH go the SHEEPLE….

          • juststacey

            “NONE of the photos show the number and severity of injuries that were reported”

            I’m going to try to stay calm here, but I’m having a very hard time. No photos show the number and severity of the injuries?! I’m having to stop and collect my thoughts at this blatantly stupid comment. The photos were so graphic and horrifying that the news outlets had to post warning on them. There was a video shot by a reporter seconds after the explosion showing people laying in pools of their own blood while police and spectators were desperately dragging down the barriers to get to them.

            No photos?! Making a statement so completely WRONG and stupid is literally making my head hurt.

            How about these photos? Did they show the severity of the injuries for you?

          • juststacey

            Just do a search on any search engine then click Images. As if you didn’t already know that. What the EFF are you try to prove with this crap?

          • Bradford

            …yeah, Stacy, I’ve seen those photos…Arredondo&Bauman are 2 EXCELLENT ACTORS…the guy(Bauman) who SUPPOSEDLY got his “legs blown off” BTK, in fact lost them ATK in Iraq…and, like I said, Arredondo is an excellent actor…I was fooled at first, too, Stacy, but as I calmed down, got UN-emotional, and analytical, these photos no longer pass the “smell test”…they are all *STAGED*, Hollywood-style…
            If YOU had just had YOUR legs blown off, would YOU be AWAKE, ALERT, and CALM…???…and the “bombs” were Hollywood pyrotechnics, nothing more…lots of smoke, and a loud bang, but NO, I do NOT see “hundreds” of LEGITIMATE, REAL injuries…google:”Craft International”, and spend some time looking at the “images” results…
            Sorry, Stacy, these are all *FAKED* photos…
            Show me something REAL, and I might believe it…

          • juststacey

            Once again I am struggling to control my RAGE as I type this.

            If you truly believe that the Boston Marathon terrorist attack was staged and that the victims were all actors, then quite frankly you are either one of the stupidest people alive or you are completely insane.

            My gut instinct was to not even dignify this outrageous, cruel and entirely false crap with a reply but I must.

            You must have been born and raised in some kind of secluded militia compound out in the wilds of Montana or something, and have never set foot outside of it and seen real life in a big city or even a small town. What you are suggesting is 100% COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE!

            I have lived my entire life here in Boston and have spent quite a lot of time in the exact area where the bombings took place. I have patronized the candy shop that was blown to hell because they are the only shop in town where I can find plum Jelly Bellys. I know that area like the back of my hand.

            The Boston Marathon is an international sporting event that is broadcast LIVE both locally and beyond! The area where the finish line is located is a HIGH TRAFFIC area 24 hours a day! It is the center point of public transportation in that area with a subway stop and about a dozen bus routes originating and terminating exactly there. The central hub of the entire Boston Public Library is there. There are numerous hotels and a huge shopping mall steps away from the finish line itself. The streets are lined with major retailers. It is surrounded by corporate business, banks, restaurants, etc.

            Copley Sq NEVER closes! There is ALWAYS pedestrian and automobile traffic in the area. Even while they are setting up the staging and barriers it remains open to traffic except when they section off areas where they are erecting structures that could cause injury to passers-by and when they block the street to paint the finish line itself – and obviously they block the route of the race the night before. But there are ALWAYS people walking around before, during and after the set up and breakdown.

            it would would therefore be ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to stage a fake attack with actors and Hollywood-esque special effects, you complete and utter MORON!!!! HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY SET UP AND PERPETRATE ALL THAT IN FULL VIEW OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC?! There are THOUSANDS of people around the finish line alone along with news media broadcasting LIVE! For fucks sake there were live videos broadcasting at the exact moment the bombs went off! There were people with all their limbs intact standing and cheering the runners and then in a fraction of a second there were mangled bodies strewn all over the place with blood everywhere.

            Even Hollywood couldn’t accomplish that in a split second! IT ALL HAPPENED RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR OWN EYES! Or you think they ENTER city was in on it? Or that the general public was refused entry to the area to make sure no one saw the elaborate hoax being performed like some sort of physics-defying magic trick?! HOW STUPID COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE?!

            First you say there were NO photos, which is obviously a flat out lie and mind-numbingly stupid, but I posted those same photos that were plastered all over media outlets WORLDWIDE anyway. Then you say, “these are all *FAKED* photos”. Ooooooooh!!! You wanted REAL photos!!! You just want it all don’t you?

            SERIOUSLY?! I mean it! SERIOUSLY?! You obviously have no idea just how STUPID and/or INSANE that is. Let me amend my previous opinion of you. You are either one of the stupidest and/or insane people alive or you are pure evil and enjoy pissing people off and rubbing salt in gaping wounds that will never ever heal. Either way, you contribute absolutely nothing to this world and you are a waste of a life.

            Oh, and, in response to your pointless question about if I’d just had my legs blown off: I’d probably be overwhelmed with massive amounts of adrenalin and in shock. That’s what the body does in extremely traumatic situations. Anyone with half a brain knows that.

            Oh yeah, and obviously you can’t read very well either, which would explain a lot, because if you could you’d see that my name is STACEY and not Stacy as you typed three times.

          • Bradford

            You’re correct – I inadvertently & mistakenly misspelled your name 3 times, even after I checked….
            And thanks for proving my point…You say you are “struggling to control your RAGE”…nobody can think clearly when they are enraged, Stacey…That’s what TPTB are counting on…That you continue to believe everything they tell you. You’re a good little sheeple, Stacey. Now, go back to sleep…enjoy your dreams…Maybe after you wake up you can tell me something about Arredondo&Bauman…

          • juststacey

            Way to dodge everything in my reply to you which proves that your asinine allegations are completely impossible.

            Physics? What’s that? Science? An inconvenient bit of trivia.

          • Bradford

            Sorry, Stacey, but I “dodged” nothing…you made no specific claims…all I read in your reply was angry, over-emotional ranting and raving…Why don’t YOU tell ME something relevant about either Arredondo, or Bauman, or don’t you know who they are…???…My points are that you don’t even know a fraction of what you *THINK* you “know”….you’re still too angry & scared…
            …did you google Craft Int’l, yet…???…WELL…???…

          • juststacey

            Here, I found another fake photo for you, asshole.

            http://i.imgur.com/tQ6JdDs.jpg

          • Bradford

            …it sure looks just like a FAKE photo…
            …thnx, Stacey…

          • juststacey

            Here’s a crazy idea. Why don’t YOU provide irrefutable proof that this was all staged and that the victims were “crisis actors”. You know what irrefutable proof is, right? It’s verifiable facts provided by a reputable and identified source.

            Oh, and just so you know, blogs from Neo-Natzis shrieking about the evil “Xionist Jews” and ultra-right extremists aren’t reputable sources.

            Yeah, I didn’t think so. (And do you REALLY want to be associated with the aforementioned bloggers?)

          • Bradford

            National Socialist German Workers’ Party, aka NSDAP, aks “Nazis”…& it’s spelled “zionist”…
            …what are you gonna do next year in *high*school*, girl…???…

          • juststacey

            What’s aks? Ohhh you mean aka again. Whoopsie. And… by… the… way… Please… learn… how… to… use… ellipses…

            Lucky you. You caught two typos that I made. Yay you!

            So the fascists ARE your friends then. Explains a lot actually. And the Holocaust never happened either right? Or was that staged by the same ZIONIST Jews and crisis actors?

            And you did it again. You conveniently ignored MY points about the how staging the Boston Marathon bombing would be physically impossible and failed to provide ONE credible source to back up your preposterous and hateful lies.

            You make me sick.

          • Bradford

            …YO!, Stacey, why should I “learn… how… to… use ellipses…”, just because YOU tell me to…???…I have my own style of ellipsesisms…
            And, actually, Stacey, it was very easy to “stage” the whole Boston Marathon Firecrackers episode… Did you google “Craft International”, yet…???…Craft was the main civilian contractor, along with FedGov assets from DHS, FBI, etc…
            Bauman lost both his legs just below the hip in Iraq(…IED explosion…) and was then fitted with the gory-looking prosthesis with the fake bone sticking out…a SECOND, normal-looking prosthesis was fitted over THAT…so, when the firecrackers were lit, and distracted everybody, the outer prosthesis was removed, revealing the gory-looking one…Arrendondo was pre-positioned, w/wheelchair, and so was the photog…VOILA!…a whole series of gruesome photos SPLASHED all over the media, for low-information voters just like YOU, Stacey…
            THAT is how it was done…And, you keep insisting on “irrefutable proof”, but there’s no such thing…You have already had your mind made up for you, and you will never change it without permission, will you? See, that’s what makes you a good little sheeple…
            (…BTW, I am NOT a Holocaust denier, or a “fascist”…I’m a WASP, and your Pope Francis tells you to love me, because I’m poor…*grin*…and Stacey, you’d be happier if you weren’t so gullible, didn’t get so easily upset, and used your brain more for something besides being in a *RAGE*…

          • juststacey

            I don’t have a Pope, moron. I don’t let hypocrite would-be emperors dictate what I can and cannot believe and do.

          • Bradford

            I would rather be a “moron”, than to be a LESS-on, like YOU…but, you could use a good LESSON, or 2…I LOVE how you totally IGNORE every relevant comment I make, and focus on my harmless personal insults…Have you read “sniperkitty’s” blog yet? It’s well-written, and has lots of links…Look at all the “honest” FBI agents in the Whitey Bulger trial…I believe that the world is MUCH SAFER than “they” want you to think…

          • juststacey

            I’m sorry, did you make a relevant comment somewhere? I haven’t seen one.

          • Lilee

            I very much agree with this. Remember at first they tied the convenience store robbery with the MIT cop killing, saying it was the bombers that robbed the store. But later video showed the bombers did not rob the store. We would still believe they had if there was no video. So what ties the bombers to the MIT cop killing? Boston/Watertown had a military takeover, make no mistake. That is rationalized by making this a terrorist attack with a capital T. So will someone get away with killing a cop to fulfill an image they need of the brothers to justify the military takeover of Boston? Was what happened in Boston really a thrill killing orchestrated by the older brother, using lame politics as an excuse and dragging the younger one in? But that image doesn’t justify a coup over our normal police proceedings. So they need to make him bigger than life, not some kid on the cover of the Rolling Stone.

          • Unknown1776

            I imagine you must be from the South, or a State with a libertarian streak.

          • Unknown1776

            the burden of proof is on those who would say he’s not involved in any of the aforementioned incidents given the vast media coverage on this subject as it took place. So if all you sheeple who purportedly know all and see through all the conspiracies out there are so correct, why not start illustrating to us minute-by-minute the events that transpired in Boston, with substantiated evidence to prove he was not there? Because there is a very large section of people out there that watched this news from Day 1, following the breadcrumbs as others have. So please, elucidate us.

          • juststacey

            You and your fellow conspiracy fuckwits are the sheeple. You are believing a bunch of pure crap that is physically impossible. But don’t let that dissuade you. Some people just can’t handle reality.

          • juststacey

            Where is all this irrefutable proof that you conspiracy SHEEPLE keep ranting about? I’ve looked for it but all I can find are blogs by ultra-conservatives, Neo-Nazis blaming the “hoax” on “Xionist Jews”, and the like. I couldn’t find ANYTHING even closely resembling cold, hard facts – NOTHING AT ALL. Please post links to any source that presents legitimate proof from verifiable sources – if you have any…

            You and everyone saying this was a staged event with “crisis actors” are fools if you actually believe it and evil sociopaths if you don’t and just like to get people riled up for your own amusement.

          • Munitor

            I only know what Police says, what Family and Friends says and what people that knew him says. Google > Tsarnaev facts <. Tsarnaev has no relation with this tragedy but just because Police and Media says so.

            Police have no more suspects but only them due a video where they are spotted just walking. But if you were there maybe you may enlight more about.

          • JonaD

            Yeah? Oh, and you CHOOSE to believe them, with no proof, but scoff those who believe another perspective, who have proof. Now, as scum, you must say, “What proof? Maybe the ‘proof is faked!?” and so forth… right? Loser.

          • alexdifeo

            Listen, I like a good government conspiracy more than most, just read my posts, but I think you’re reaching on this one….I think he’s just an impressionable kid that got caught up in his brother’s murderous lunacy…

          • Karen White

            Actually a survivor of the bombing, who lost both legs in the attack, identified the Tsarnaev brothers. He gave first responders their descriptions and described Tamerlin placing the back pack by his feet then walking away moments before the explosion. He lost both legs but not his mind, his will to live or the ability to see the facts in front of him. He was there! He was awake and able to provide details of the bombing suspects that were then proven with video of the suspects! Is he an FBI led steeple?
            No, he is just a man who can tell first hand what happened to him and who did it, because he was there, he suffered, still suffers! Many victims still suffer and will for years to come. The other victims? Let me remind you! They are still dead and their loss will impact their families forever. Lets reserve humanity for the humane, justice for the just and respect for the respectful! Glorifying evil perpetuates evil! Portraying this evil boy as a “good boy gone bad” is reprehensible and a slap in the face to the real victims of the heinous acts of two twisted, evil minds!

          • michele dodt

            How then would you explain the pressure cooker bomb they chucked at the pursuing
            officers? I know I don’t drive around with explosives and weapons in my car!!

          • Lars C.

            Meg, officer Donahue was shot by his own fellows. Friendly fire, they said.

            We all know the story, and this is not the judge. Relax, sista.

          • troutfishinggirl

            He means “what makes him guilty” like where is the
            proof. So far we have only seen a pic of what appears to be him standing near
            the finish line, pics of numerous WARRANTLESS searches happening all over the
            area to people who weren’t even close to being considered suspects, and pics of
            him getting out of the boat.

            Where are the pics from the gas station where the victim of
            the carjacking apparently escaped? Where is the pic of them even near the MIT
            campus? Where is the pic (out of the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of pics they had)
            of either of the brothers leaving a backpack that blew up? I have seen many
            photos with MANY people who had on black backpacks that day, and who later did
            not. Maybe it’s possible that they dropped their bags after the bomb went off,
            like HUNDREDS of other people near the finish line did (there are plenty of
            photos of all of the bags/purses/gear people dropped when running away, that
            they were trying to reunite with their owner). Where is the picture of inside
            of the apartment where these bombs were allegedly made? Where are the reliable
            eyewitnesses that aren’t employed by the government (ie law enforcement)?

            Really, where is any of this?

            And no, I’m not conspiracy theorist, I just like evidence before I lynch mob
            someone. I’m sure you would want people who acted the same, if you were in a
            situation of being accused of something. If you think everyone should believe
            everything the government is saying because the government is saying it, well I
            have news for you. Since the beginning of time almost every government has told
            some kind of lie, big or small. The only way to know it isn’t a lie is to have
            proof beyond what is being told to you by the person you think may be lying.

            Considering all the photos they had, and considering all of
            the eyewitnesses there SHOULD BE, and considering that we know how much data
            the NSA keeps on virtually everyone, they shouldn’t have a problem with
            producing evidence, yet they are not doing so. And dispersing evidence before
            trial would not make it inadmissible in court, so don’t even try to go there.
            There is virtually no reason why the government should not give us even a crumb
            of evidence that these brothers committed this crime. You can say they don’t
            want to “tip off other terrorists with the methods”, well they have
            verbally TOLD almost anyone who will listen what they allegedly SAW and what
            the brothers allegedly DID, so producing evidence on what has already been told
            to us would not give them anything new, it would merely confirm what they
            obviously want the American people to believe. And in all honesty, why would
            terrorists want to mimic these two, if what they are accused of is true? Terrorists’
            main objective is to kill as many people as possible and spread as much fear as
            possible. Only 3 people were killed in the Boston bombing. While that is 3 more
            than anyone wants to die, that is an extremely low number for something that
            was allegedly a “trained terrorist act”. Most trained terrorists are
            very sophisticated and meticulously plan things out. Whoever committed this
            bombing was obviously not very trained, because the methods they used did not
            cause casualties on a terrorist like scale. More people died in car
            accidents in America that day than died in the Boston bombing. Am I happy
            that people died/got injured in the bombing? Absolutely not. I’m
            just trying to illustrate why someone who even has a small knowledge of
            terrorists/terrorism would question why the government would think this act was
            committed by trained terrorists. That question leads to more questions.
            None of which can be answered absent of proof.

          • JonaD

            Yes. Definitely.

          • Unknown1776

            ummmm once someone acknowledges their crime without coercion its considered to be a legitimate confession, hate to tell you.

        • http://www.mohammedismail.com/ Mohammed Ismail

          You might find this interesting: “The Boston Bombings: A tale of drills, patsies and terrible, terrible geography” http://j.mp/15V2fJU

          • JonaD

            More fiction eh.?.. wait for the trial.

        • tigerpawraw

          Obviously, not all evidence has been presented yet. They even mentioned having video of the Tsarnevs dropping the bombs but did not want to broadcast those images because they feared what people might do to them if they found them before police. People like you kill me; you try to discredit everything by claiming a lack of evidence, but never present any real evidence to back your claims. And repeating what some crazy right wing website/talk radio guy has said does not constitute “real evidence”.

          • Bradford

            …google: “Craft International”, and see what comes up for “images”…

          • Prodius

            Right wing?
            The “right wing” has been warning people of radical Islam for ages.
            Alex Jones is a purveyor of intellectual smut, hardly right wing and more insane than most extremists from either side.

            EDIT: the word intellectual in the context used can be debated.

        • JonaD

          See? Insanity is the one major constant of humanity, and Munitor demonstrates this perfectly… tainted, corrupted, twisted, and using every bit of his imagination to make his fantasy of victimization come real. Dude, it’s easy, the guy is a terrorist, a bombing monster! and has no consideration for anyone, not even his brother… you admire him, and you admire DIRT!

        • Cecil

          If you’re going to espouse controversial views, it’s best to make sure your message is neither ranting or uses poor grammar, which at times forces the reader to re-read sections to try and figure out what you’re trying to say.

        • Tom

          You are an ignorant, dangerous fool, period. The ‘suspect’ was driven over by his own brother and dragged a hundred feet under their stolen car. Lol. But with your amazing English grammar, I imagine you are 12, or just another uneducated idiot leaching off society while trashing the country you live in. Just like the bombers.

        • EpicMale

          Who would have guessed the Taliban could post here from some dusty cave in Afghanistan?

        • EZE

          Your grammar is fucking unreadable. Don’t try to make a point if you can’t write english. I don’t even know whether I agree with you or not because I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE SAYING!

        • Tom

          So, let me get this straight…the FBI is involved with a bombing of hundreds of innocents at a marathon race so that We will be distracted from ‘what is really going on’ such as north Korea or computer surveillance.. You are such a complete conspiracy jackass that I cannot believe I wasted a minute replying.

          • Unknown1776

            especially since the surveillance issue came out months later ;)

        • Nick099

          Tin-foil hat time for you.

        • Sallynotadude

          You know I have been thinking about making up conspiracy theories to mess with people like you and I have a question. Is the terrible sentence structure and poor grammar that I see in so many crazy theories required? If I did it in an easy to read, proper manner, would you guys not be able to read it?

        • sam

          wtf are you talking about…

          (and how did over 100 people upvote that?!)

        • James

          I would say that him writing his ‘manifesto’ if you will in blood on the wall of the boat he was hiding in is evidence enough that he did it. Or maybe it was the explosive materials (the same that were used in the bombing) that were found in his backpacks at school, you know, the ones that his friends hid. That sounds like good evidence. Or maybe the fact that he was knowingly running from SWAT teams. Maybe the fact that his older brother literally said “We did that” in reference to the explosions to the man with the vehicle that they carjacked. That all sounds like evidence to me. Go educate yourself on the definition of ignorance.

        • donpjt

          Running and hiding is one thing that innocent people do, BUT, Innocent people don’t carry assault weapons and use them on cops when confronted.

          Innocent people are not ready to sacrifice their own brother while they are fleeing.

          The one who was killed in a police confrontation was not someone who was innocent, but someone who had already murdered a cop. They were ready to kill someone in order to save themselves. If that had not happened, this manhunt would not have become so aggressive!

          When you murder someone, who protects the people, the game changes, you will be hunted!

        • Chris

          Well Put Munitor – too bad there are too many ignorant people around here to follow what your saying – if you said this on CNN/FOX/CBS they would probably believe though

        • Griffin

          I agree with you

        • Nancy

          seriously? Him and his brother were shooting the cops while being chased. Police did their job. They knew who was responsible and that’s why they hunted him down like the animal he is!!!

        • timm

          Your written English even sounds like “bring me moose and squirrel.” And you ARE nuttier than squirrel turds. Wishing you everything bad.
          The World.

        • Griffin

          I agree with you

        • Ben Chen

          LOL! Munitor. The irony in your #2 and #6. What actual knowledge of this case do you have? Are you relying on what the media has not reported as evidence that there is no evidence linking Tsarnaev to the crime?

          #10 is really funny .

        • Andrew Green

          In reguards to point number two. maybe the fact that he had a shootout with police and even threw bombs (devices strikingly similar to the ones recovered on the attack site) at the officers.

        • Dave

          How many innocent people shoot and throw bombs at police officers?

        • LouAnnWatson

          you are definitely a sympathetic foreigner, i can tell by your speech patterns, whether you’re (actually) here legally or not. spread your propaganda elsewhere

        • Gary A

          He likely killed his brother when escaping by running him over.

        • ggm281

          You just did something that is almost impossible today. You made me grateful I was born in the US because at least it is not whatever country you came from. Living with such paranoia would be untenable.

          • ByTheWay

            So you believe that 19 men with box cutters were able to outwit the most powerful military in the world and had NORAD stand down. TSA was implemented sticking hands down peoples pants to keep us safe while radiation body scanners making profits for Michael Chertoff the out going head of HLS. A deal to put these in airports was made before 9/11. You honestly don’t think there is an agenda here? What is the motive? NSA spying on everything you do, mail, email, computer research, phone calls, texts messages, TSA, Street cameras, etc…..follow the money trail.

        • Suzanne Longo

          Oh shut-up and go back to your conspiracy theories websites.

        • djh

          Hey, if our president had had a son, he would have looked like Tsarnaev.

        • Sam

          Thank you. You have made my exact reasoning available to the public. I thank you. It is good to know that I am not the only one who thinks like this. There really are intelligent, logical thinkers in the world.

        • Richie Villafuerte

          nothing you claim is factual or can be substantiated. he has admitted to the crime already, not everything is a conspiracy.

        • Mickey

          Conspiracy theories are adorable!

        • Marrkedman

          What a masshole you are. Do you not read? Are you always so ill informed?

      • canardnoir

        “invented” and now they’re scrubbing the comments – go figure.

    • Barry Bond

      Trash should be kept in the garbage cans it belongs in

      • victoria8

        well said,short and to the point

    • Adam Steiger

      For the sake of clarity, I want to understand your position better.

      Are you taking a position of moral relativism here? That is, are you placing both bostonmagazine.com and Rolling Stone magazine into the same category (i.e. both are attempting to attract attention)?

      • Aaron K Kraus

        No, I’m saying that sensationalism has been, is now, and will be a component of photo-journalism insomuch as it is packaged for consumption at the newsstand. Magazines and publications are trying to select visually arresting images that communicate something deeper than the image to entice buyers.

        Boston Magazine decided to capitalize on the attention the RS cover generated and release a series of images to tell a story AND drive page views. Rolling Stone decided to draw attention to their story by selecting an image that would challenge the casual viewer AND drive sales.

        • Adam Steiger

          Thank you for clarifying, Aaron.

          When I was a communication major, the marketing strategies you mentioned were presented in mass media lecture on the basis of whether or not they were “newsworthy”.

          While I don’t agree Rolling Stone’s choice of presentation, I am aware (as you stated) of the reasons why.

        • Curious.

          Aaron Kraus – were you at the bombing? Were you or a loved one there?

          • brian_x

            I wasn’t at the bombing, though I could have been (the restaurant that got blown up is a place I hang out at quite a bit), and the town I grew up in was one of the towns put on lockdown during the manhunt. I still have family and friends in the area and I visit there regularly.

            And you know what? Aaron is quite correct.

          • Aaron K Kraus

            No, although I regularly visited and worked in Boston and had two close friends in the area that day. Just curious, why would it matter? If I had been there would I be entitled to censor the media’s use of images?

        • kenlaw

          Fat souless ginger homo get that nigger dick out your mouth

          • Aaron K Kraus

            Great point.

    • Serge Isaac Barou

      Aaron, you are just talking porkies. The magazine has nothing to do with the picture on its cover? And the wrong message it sends? Well, I just reiterate: you’re talking highly sophisticated porkies.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        I have no idea what you mean by “porkies,” let alone “talking” ones.

        • brian_x

          Just guessing, but sounds like rhyming slang: lies -> pork pies -> porkies

        • Serge Isaac Barou

          This is not the only thing you have no idea about, but it doesn’t stop you from blathering just the same

          Porky
          A big lie. From the English rhyming slang ‘porky pies’, which rhymes with lies.

          Axel: Did you hear that I was elected pope?
          Jeeves: Tha’ts a porky. Stop telling porkies.

          • Aaron K Kraus

            Ahh — of course — PORKIES. I’m not good with Cockney rhyming slang, how would I say “You’re missing the point of my comment but that doesn’t surprise me because you seem to be actively avoiding nuanced thinking.”?

    • Anjali

      I’m still trying to understand how this is a response to the Rolling Stone cover…it shows a wounded, unarmed terrorist almost dying when we needed answers from him. I guess that “shoot-out” must have been pretty intense given that he didn’t have a gun. These photos just remind me of our incompetence during this whole fiasco. We should seriously questioned what happened to this once normal kid to turn him into an alleged mass murderer, and how did he and his brother get away from the police SO MANY TIMES. If it wasn’t for the Asian man and the boat owner…we wouldn’t have gotten them. All while we continue spying on all Americans and escalating the arms of local police and state troops. But no, let the mindless glorification of the authorities, corrupt politicians, and trigger happy FBI continue.

      • Dan Flathers

        The authorities did their jobs. The bombers did theirs.
        Whom is “mindlessly glorifying” whom?

        • Anjali

          The people who consider this fiasco a success. That is who is mindlessly glorifying the authorities who did their job poorly.

          • brian_x

            And how would you have handled the whole situation?

      • Charles Bryan Baron

        Why does normal kid turn into mass murderer—-ask the Islamists among us and around the world. Why do arab terrorists exist? Why did Bin Laden exist for so long? The appeal of this extreme perverted skewed version of Islam to so many people rivals the appeal of the rabid inhuman organization known as the Nazional Sozialisitiche Deutsche Arbiter Partei (NSDAP–NAZIS)

        • Dan Flathers

          Still waiting for the Imams in America and CARE to get serious…

          • Anjali

            THEY ARE SERIOUS! No matter how many times they condemn these acts, its never enough. We hardly give their statements any media coverage and we completely ignored the numerous Fatwas issued towards the Boston bomber. There are more fatwas issued against terrorists than anyone else, but the average American probably wouldn’t know that.

          • Jo2Jo

            Mohammed said to kill Christians and Jews Is a “GOOD” Muslim one who obeys the “Prophet” or disobeys him?

          • WuddupDoe

            @disqus_stvssz5oiS:disqus and you know this how?

          • Jo2Jo

            It is in the Hadith “sayings of Mohammed”
            In the Quran he says its ok to kill innocent people when you’re in a Jihad

            The Question
            IS a “GOOD” Muslim one who Obeys the “Prophet” or One who Disobeys Him?

          • Ily Michael

            Are you able to read and comprehend? Have you read the Quran? I would love to be shown any verse that says that because it is not in there!

          • Chris Korhonen

            Ily, actually there are about 164 verses in the Quran about Jihad, most of which talk about killing those who do not believe in Alah (which would include innocent people of different religions/beliefs), retribution against transgressions, and all sorts of happy revenge and killing commands. Have YOU read the Quran?

          • cdboss

            She cant read the blubber is in her eyes.

          • Andy

            Well actually, any person who speaks English can read the Quran, as there is a complete and free English translation online. Some of it is truly compelling stuff. Take this cheery passage from Surah An-Nisa’ for example,

            “As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)”

            I invite you to google the english translation so you to can delight in the wonders of ‘peaceful’ Islam.

          • Kimberly Gibson

            First of all, it’s CAIR, not CARE. And they are serious…..serious about two absolutely amazing, thoughtful, kind, generous, intelligent young men, friends of many, loving sons, who happen to be of the muslim faith, being falsely accused of something they DID NOT do…being condemned and labeled guilty when there’s not even been a trial. A third being interrogated and murdered in his own home, shot in the back of the head, for refusing to admit to something he DID NOT DO. I’ll bet you believe in INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, don’t you Mr. Flathers….or doesn’t that apply to MUSLIM Americans? If so, YOU are exactly what the government intended to and successfully created.

          • Gman79

            Wait … what?

        • Anjali

          Arab terrorists (as if terrorists are only arab…lets ignore the fact that this terrorist is white) were funded by us to fight the Russians. Its Cold War politics again. Look into how we financed the Chechens too.

          • JohnWayne

            Idiot. Islam has been an anti social, anti civilization, anti human rights death cult for 1400 years.

          • Anjali

            On the contrary, without Islam, Europe would have been stuck in the dark ages. Clearly the Muslim world is going through a dark age of its own, but to say that it has been some sort of death cult for 1400 is ignoring the major contribution Islam played in the human civilization. Coffee, algebra, music (guitar), and the survival of Greek philosophy and epics is thanks to the early Muslims. The Islamic world is responsible for some of the most breathtaking architecture. Muslims had already discovered the smallpox vaccination long before it fell into western hands. The early Muslims found no conflict between Islam and science. Arabs come from the world’s first civilization, so they are not some barbaric uncivilized people. Rather, the current state of the Muslim world is due to colonialism, foreign meddling, and a conflict within their own societies over modernization. Their troubles are all rather recent. P.S. I’m not a Muslim.

          • Glenn Grimstad

            Why are you taking this as a fight towards Islam??? Most Americans actually know that Islam teaches peace. It’s extemists that contort this teaching to gain leadership and power in a religion that has been skewed from what it was written as. Every religion has a virus that can take the great teachings of it and ruin it. All people are saying is these people that were killed by this person probably embraced and did not have a hate towards the Islamic religion. I am NOT a Muslim either, but have many friends that are. None of them or us understand THIS.

          • Anjali

            I was responding to John Wayne who does seem to think this is a fight against Islam.

          • ugh

            Fuq Islam. Piss be upon him.

          • Ken Davenport

            Every religion has a virus that promotes people strapping suicide bombs on their backs to kill as many innocents as it can? Really? Don’t compare Islam to other religions; “radical Christians” or “radical Jews” are not beheading people for insulting Jesus or God or Moses. Get real. Have you read the Koran? Do you not know that there are versus that tell believers to kills non-believers?

          • Gene Mark Miller

            Have you ever read the bible? There are verses that condone much more evil violence than that.
            If you marry a woman who is NOT a virgin, You have the biblical right to stone her to death.
            If your neighbor doesn’t like the scent of your “offering” of a burning calf (i.e. BBQ), than the bible says you have the right to kill your neighbor.
            God commands Moses, at one point in time, to kill all the male children and the female children who had “known man by lying next to him”, but then told Moses to keep all the woman children alive for their own use.

            Please tell me more about how peaceful the Christian religion is.

          • Serge Isaac Barou

            Hey, don’t pretend to be thicker than you are: you are thick enough as it is. Whatever is told in the Bible, Christians don’t chase people in the streets of megalopolises to behead them, or stripe bombs to themselves to murder innocents. Christianity is capable of development – it had gone through reformation, so don’t feign naivete – you are not naive, just an inept agitator.

          • Guest

            Ask an Irishman about this. Or an Englishman. One who’s a bit older than you though, lad. And see what answer you get.

          • Gene Mark Miller

            National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), Anders Behring Breivik, Manmasi National Christian Army, Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA), Army Of God, Hutaree…

            All Christian based groups (From only the last 20 years) that have used violence, bombs, firearms, and other physical harm in the name of their faith.

            That is not even considering the much older Ku Klux Klan and the branches of it in the more modern Neo-Nazi groups.

          • johbee

            The difference is that these excerpts you mentions are not carried out by modern society where as they are in the Muslim culture.

          • Gene Mark Miller

            National Liberation Front of
            Tripura (NLFT), Anders Behring Breivik, Manmasi National Christian Army,
            Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA), Army Of God, Hutaree…

            All Christian based groups (From only the last 20 years) that have
            used violence, bombs, firearms, and other physical harm in the name of
            their faith.

            That is not even considering the much older Ku Klux Klan and the branches of it in the more modern Neo-Nazi groups.

          • Wesley Neill

            Uh can you actually point this out in the Bible for me? Since I’ve read the whole thing, multiple times, maybe I missed something…

          • Gene Mark Miller

            Numbers 31
            1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Take vengeance on the Midianites for the
            Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.”

            17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
            18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

          • markml

            It is clear that you have not read the Bible either.

            God did not command Moses to kill children.

            Rather, the verse you are referring to is actually quoting an order that Moses himself gave to his army after winning a battle. The Israelite army had originally spared both women and children, but Moses later ordered the army to kill male children and married women (who were loyal to their husbands and played a role in the original conflict). Both posed a threat to the tribe of Israel.

            So Moses wasn’t the greatest humanitarian, but his actions were probably necessary to ensure the survival of Israel. They were not at all a powerful country like the USA, and they constantly faced possible extinction. Moses was made their leader, and if he had been a total pacifist, they would have gone extinct. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

            It is important to note that all evidence would seem to indicate that the ancient Israeli people were still quite a bit more civilized than the other cultures that surrounded them, for the times they lived in. The ancient world was very barbaric, and you need to filter everything through that context!

            The Bible is partially a historical record of the times people lived in, not just a bunch of commandments. Not knowing that is proof you haven’t read it.

            Last time I checked, Christians don’t worship Moses either. He was chosen by God, but he was not even close to perfect, and we don’t hold him with anywhere near the same reverence that modern Muslims have for Mohammed.

            I don’t think the Bible says anything about BBQs either. I will say that the death penalty was a more common punishment back then for crimes we wouldn’t consider so severe, but that’s not a lot different than modern day Singapore.

            But then, that was all the Old Testament. God permits violence in the Old Testament, but I don’t think that necessarily means that it please Him. In the New Testament, Jesus tries to teach people to live to a higher standard, that it’s not enough to just live by the laws of the Old Testament.

            Early Christians in the New Testament were opposed to the death penalty.

          • Gene Mark Miller

            So what your saying is that we should pass blanket judgement on all Muslims because their Holy Book is just as violent as Christians, But because its only “Old Testament” violence, It makes it better?

            The point is, BOTH religions were FOUNDED in blood. They BOTH have extreme laws, Which a majority from both religions don’t follow… it doesn’t make them False Muslims or False Christians.
            The problem with organized religion as a whole, is that each one believes the others to be godless pagans.
            But did you know that Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu’ran?
            The way I see all holy books, The Bible, The Qu’ran, The Kebra Nagast, The Torah, Zuangzi, etc, They are meant to inspire its followers, And you will find extremists in EVERY religion.
            So to lay blanket judgements over an entire religion because its holy book is “violent”… well that pretty hypocritical unless you’re a taoist or buddhist. Just think how easily it would be to judge EVERY Christian we meet by the Westboro Baptist Church that claims they are “True Christians”.

          • markml

            No, what I’m saying is that you didn’t read the Bible. That was the most important thing to clarify!

            In the specific example you gave, the Bible is mentioning violence as a record of something that happened, which is very different from commanding it.

            You claim to be an expert of the Bible and the Quran, but it’s clear you only read the cliff notes of these books given to you by someone else.

            I will at least admit that I’m not an expert on the Quran, but from what I know of it, there are a number of passages where either Mohammed or Allah are advocating war against non-believers. Anyone who is Muslim care to challenge that?

            And yes, of course Jesus is mentioned in the Quran. Mohammed knew of Christianity, and was to some extent influenced by it, although the religion he created has very different principles.

            Christianity specifically promotes pacifism. That doesn’t mean that all Christians in history have been pacifists, but despite what you say, acts of violence are not endorsed by the Christian Bible.

            There are plenty of Muslims who are peaceful people too. Not questioning that. But the basic tenants of their religion are not as peaceful as Christianity.

            Your claim that both religions are equally violent is flat-out false.

          • Gene Mark Miller

            Please tell me where I “claim to be an expert of the Bible and the Quran”…

            You can deny the violence from early Christianity, But it doesn’t change history. You can deny the violence from modern Christianity, But it doesn’t make these Extremist Christian groups any less real.

            If the Qu’ran teaches modern muslims violence, Than please explain why the highest and most esteemed Imams from around the world have endorsed the Fatwa against Terrorism, denouncing that extremist groups like Al Qaeda and the Taliban are working in conjunction with the TRUE meaning of the Qu’ran. (Don’t expect to hear about this on US media)

            Thats because, just like Christianity, Islam has extremist groups that take the holy word and use either direct translations, negating parables into fact instead of analogies, Or plainly mistranslating it, Just as the Christian Extremist groups do.

            So why is it that if Christianity has extremist, than they are only “Extremist” and not “Christian Extremist”… But if Islam has extremist, Than they must be labeled as “Muslim Extremists”? Why the double standard?

          • Gene Mark Miller

            And THIS is the largest problem with organized religion. Each group translates the holy word differently, created “denominations”… some are more liberal and some are more conservative…some are extremists. Each group claims to be following the TRUE religion, When they all believe in the same God, with different interpretations of His word.
            I’m not a Muslim supporter and I’m not a Christian supporter… I support truth.
            Both religions were founded in violence, both by and against their believers. (You cannot separate the Old Testament from the New Testament, one by itself is not “The Bible” but only a portion of It.) Both groups continue to maintain extremist groups, And I agree, we should not label them by “Christian” OR “Muslim”, because they do not represent a majority. Instead label them as they are, EXTREMISTS.

          • Gene Mark Miller

            And Westboro is the most calm of the Christian Extremist groups…
            Here are the violent ones that you claim don’t exist.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

          • Ken Davenport

            I am not a Christian — so I don’t know if the passages you cite are true or not. But even if they are — the reality is that Christians are not carrying out these passages as literal orders to “kill” on a daily basis. Can you cite a single instance where a Christian killed their neighbor because they didn’t like their offering?

            Muslims have taken the violence in the Koran to a literal level. They are killing in the name of Allah and for the slightest provocation. Can you imagine how many people would die if Christians took the blasphemy of Jesus (which is widespread in our secular culture) and killed people because of it? But that doesn’t happen.

          • Gene Mark Miller

            Maybe you should relax with the blanket judgement on all Muslims. Most people in 2010 didn’t hear about this because they were too busy following countless scandals to report about how immans across the world have sponsored a book that supports the idea that Al Qaeda and the Taliban are NOT working in conjunction with TRUE muslim religion and that their extremist acts are still considered evil and wrong by the majority of the Muslim faith.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa_on_Terrorism

          • Gene Mark Miller

            Honestly I would have no problem with this thread if people were capable of ignoring media propaganda and calling it like it is… EXTREMIST Muslims… Not “Muslims” in general.
            I don’t walk around saying “Did you hear about those Christians protesting the military funeral?” No, because that would be insulting to TRUE Christians, So I specify “Westboro Baptist Church.

          • Serge Isaac Barou

            You’re right on the mark, Ken! “Most Americans know that Islam teaches peace”, says Glenn. Peace my ass! Arab propagandists shout from every soap box they can find that Islam is a religion of peace, but those who have eyes to look, ears to listen – and at least a little inclination not to ape the terrorists appeasing media but think for themselves are able to see that the truth is diametrically opposite. Islam isn’t even a religion in the strict sense – it’s a millenarian ideology akin to Communism and Nazism, and even more dangerous for our civilization.

          • http://smu.gs/L1p7XU winston

            Come on, do you think if they had F16′s and phosphorus bombs they would be using suicide vests? Watch: OCCUPATION 101, THE IRON WALL & TEARS OF GAZA .. Then watch FALLUJHA THE HIDDEN MASSACRE, IRAQ FOR SALE, THE POWER PRINCIPLE, WAR MADE EASY, & WHY WE FIGHT then get back to me.

            The bible also tells us to kill non-believers. Stoning comes from the bible, which obviously you have not read or you would know, it is no less violent, or have any less tolerant dictates, supposedly from god, instructing believers to kill the infidels, than the Koran. The difference is in the education of it’s adherents and the proaganda machine that the drives support for what is essentially a needless war on terror. Wars based on lies. Starting with this one: http://smu.gs/L8pTCz

          • Anatoly Ivkov

            have you read Koran? Have have you read Old Testament? Please stop showing your ignorance, Bible like Koran is a collection of dogmas written by various zealots reflecting ideals of their time, and Bible has as much brutality as any other dogmatic book of rules to live by.

            Christianity is not an innocent, “flower-power” type of religion and if you think that it is, please try to humanize crusades for me, they certainly were very peaceful demonstration of the superior faith in the name of Christ. Tell that to up to 2% of the earth population, primarily Muslims and Jews, that were crucified, beheaded, piked up or burned alive.

            Peace.

          • ugh

            I wipe my azz with the qoran.

          • charles Norman

            Crusades would be an example of this wouldn’t they? The attack’s in norway by an extremist chritian would be an example of this.

          • Wesley Neill

            Read the history of the muslim religion. The founder was a murderer, rapist, and a pedophile who out of anger at being punished for his crimes recruited an army that raped and pillaged its way through Africa and the middle east. Town by town they forced men and women to bow and accept the new religion. Those that did not were immediately executed, except for the women and children who were raped first.
            Only todays weak minded bleeding hearts actually believe that Islam is a religion of peace. Sure, there are many muslims that don’t believe in violence. They are no different than Christians who only go to church on Sundays (if that), and then drink, party, lie and cheat their way to the next church service. These people are not real Muslims, and those people are not real Christians.
            Just open your eyes and close your mouths.

          • haad

            you are lair hatefull white racist evil

          • ugh

            And you are a murderous stinkbeard.

          • Serge Isaac Barou

            Ajali, stop reciting the Arab propaganda. Mohammedans got all those cultural achievements when they conquered peoples who made them. Simply put, they had stolen them. There is no absolutely no scientific or cultural breakthrough authored by Mohammedans, from the old time to today, – including algebra, which they had just given an Arab name to, nothing else. But there is nothing surprising in it: even their Koran is a compendium of badly distorted Jewish and Christian texts, and only the life of the old pervert and pedophile Mohie is authentically Arab.
            And who cares if you are a Mozzie or not? You’re eejit, that’s what matters.

          • DHS2020

            All religions are BS business endeavors, got it.

          • Jake_V

            You clearly aren’t a fan of islam, unfortunately, that doesn’t change history.

          • Serge Isaac Barou

            You are right on two counts: I’m not a fan of Islam (as well as of Communism and Nazism, those nice cousins); and I cannot change history. The remaining problem – though not mine, but yours – is that the history YOU know is a revisionist one.

          • MsAnthrope

            There are great similarities between all of the Abrahamic religions. Christianity uses the same base texts as Judaism, but that doesn’t necessarily debase Christianity, does it?

            Also, isn’t there quite a lot of paedophilia and incest in the Bible? Perhaps we should take it as a sign that these texts are indicative of their time, rather than judging them by today’s standards and morals.

            My goodness me, you are quite the bigot! You also seem to be confusing the words ‘Arab’ and ‘Muslim’; they are not one and the same. Perhaps you should stop spouting nonsensical anti-Islamic propaganda, and leave Anjali (**not ‘Ajali’, as you put) alone.

          • Avin

            Anjali, may be you know there is a country on this earth named India.These early Muslims invaded India with most aggression and did all kind of inhuman thing like murdering hundreds of thousand of non-muslim such as hindus, raping their women, destroying temples, burning their houses on the name of spreading message from Islam.Search history abt some early muslim invaders like Aurangzeb, Babar etc.Its good these early muslim got good treatment in return in form of colonialism,foreign meddling.

          • Jake_V

            Maybe….that still doesn’t change history.

          • Anjali

            As an Indian myself, I have to speak out against this exploitation of the Hindu-Muslim conflict. Please spare me, before the Arabs conquered the North the Hindus did the same thing. What stopped the spread of Buddhism in India? Hmmm….why don’t you get back to me on that before you go on about how Islam is the sole religion of violence. Oh and Hindus in Gujurat, the Sikh riots, assassination of Gandhi and the suicide bombing that killed Rajiv Gandhi etc. I have Sikhs in my family so of course I know of Augangzeb. If you are honest, you would also mention Shah Jahan and Akhbar The Great, or would these figures conflict too much with your bigoted narrative. Remember, if there were no muslims in India, then there never would have been a Taj Mahal, Red Fort, ghazals, khattak, Bulleh Shah, Mohammad Rafi, Dilip Kumar or even Shahrukh Khan! For Sikhs and all Punjabis, Islam is significant because Sufism is essential to our culture. Is Sufism not a gift to the world? Is it not a gift to India? I’m Punjabi, and my family certainly suffered from Partition, but it is wrong to forget that just as many, if not more, Muslims died in Partition.

          • Avin

            Gujrat riots,Sikhs riots, assassination,bombing all are happening in todays modern world like different riots are happening in egypt, pakistan within their own religion and belief.You were referring how Islam and early muslim were progressive and invented many thingsWell thats totally false, they just stole all of those achievements by murdering people.Yes murder happens prior to early muslim invaded India in form of stopping Buddhism. But that doesn’t allow early muslims to cross all limits and kill thousand of hundreds of non-muslim and destroy everything which is not related to islam.Well Tajmahal was a Shiva temple..probaly u need to find ur facts again. Go and visit Kutub Minar in Delhi..still u’ll see how these early invaders forgot to omit symbols of hindu symbol before converting it to muslim place. Akhbar was a great murderer and created history as per his convenience.Shah Jahan was women loving character….may be murdered ppl also for that. Other reference r irrelevant , not talking abt early muslims. Islam teaches to kill people and thats what early muslim did, this is bottom line.

          • Anjali

            So you admit what happened to Buddhism but you only want to talk about what the early Muslims did. Do you know what happened to the old Mosques after Partition? I’m scared of people like you who say such lies like the Taj Mahal (which was built on its own!) once being a temple and actually defend ethnic cleansing of Muslims. Comparing riots in India with Egypt, please! There’s no arguing with you, but it’s ok, BJP is growing in India and Hindu fundamentalism is on the rise so you’ll have plenty of company.

          • http://www.madmadrasi.net/ mad.madrasi

            You forgot one more thing. The Delhi Sultanate (and succeeding Mughal empire) were the foundation on which the ‘idea’ of an administratively united India emerged. Before that almost every kingdom (King) thought of itself (himself) and itself alone – even the Gupta, Maurya and Harsha’s kingdoms, though as large as that of the Sultanate/Mughals, never contributed to that unifying thought. British colonisation transformed that administrative unity into political unity. BTW the Mansabdari system introduced by the Moghuls was the first practical land administration and management structure on such huge scale – remnants of that system is still being followed today (much modified, many times amended of course). :-D

          • Avin

            I like Buddhism and wish message of Buddha could be spread all over the universe.Islam teaches to kill people.Any muslim once touches the core teachings of Islam, he/she becomes Tsarnaev and start killing innocent people on the name of Islam.
            The fault is in Islam and not in…..

            Aaj ki mulakaat bas itni,Kar lena baatein kal chaahe jitni…..Subh Raatri…Sabba Khair.

          • Rahul

            No one is denying the splendid contribution many Muslims have made. We are all proud of them.

            However, it is rather naive to blindly ignore the rapid radicalization of Muslims. Sufis among Muslims themselves are highly marginalized now and are being taken over by deobandis and wahabis zealots.

            It is the Supremacist approach that is worrying which proclaims all other religions and their followers are bogus and deserve to be killed. Unfortunate part is the kind of overwhelming approval such bigot, perverted philosophy gets across many muslims countries.

            How naive it is to suggest that all this is happening because of foreign meddling. Who is meddling in India, Bangladesh, Myanmar?

            Fact is that moderates and liberals amongst Muslims are far too few as against those in other religions.

            Comment Voting only suggests this.

          • Jake_V

            Well said and rather accurate…

          • muffinman

            All that was during the Islamic Golden Age ,which ended 7 centuries ago …

          • Thomos Smith Ward

            “without Islam, Europe would have been stuck in the dark ages”
            The main religion that brought humanity out of the dark ages was Christianity, at least in Europe.

          • mariasoledade

            Everybody forgot this is not a religious debate (mine is better than yous type of debate) The point here is that RS is presenting a terrorist suspect as a victim with a romantic aura The FBI should release all the pictures they have of the crime scene to avoid this type of speculation.

          • johbee

            You may not be a Muslim, and you are certainly educated on Muslim history. Most of what they take credit for has been stolen and pillaged. Just look at Constantinople and what the barbarian Muslims did to Ayia Sophia.

          • http://smu.gs/L1p7XU winston

            Though I am in accordance with most of your post, the Arab transmission of Greek classics, are I believe, a myth: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Arab_Transmission_of_the_Classics

          • Wesley Neill

            Actually it’s thanks to the countries through which the first fanatics lead by this so called prophet (like those today) rode through on horse back raping and burning any town who’s leadership refused to convert to their religion on the spot. It’s been the same ever since.

          • Jay

            A truly ignorant comment. But John Wayne was a myth too — and he’s dead.

          • kenlaw

            Idk about him being white looks like a sand nigger to me

          • Margaret

            Your an ignorant A*S!

          • Jake_V

            you’re ignorant….shhhh let the adults talk

          • DHS2020

            but AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Johnny Montana

            This kid was not a WASP Caucasian. He was not even a naturalized US citizen. They should have finished the job. Who care why he became what he became, he killed several people so we should extract the penalty from his sorry ass. At least George Zimmerman got it right. Justice for George Zimmerman

          • Margaret

            He was a permanent resident of the US! He became U.S. permanent resident in March 2007. He became a Naturalized U.S. citizen on September 11, 2012! So your ignorant a*s is saying one murderer has rights under US law but another does not?

          • Gman79

            “He became a Naturalized U.S. citizen on September 11, 2012!”

            September 11? Let the conspiritards loose …

          • cdboss

            The cops were bad shots. They should have finished the job just like George Zimmerman did. You Mag are a loser. Go crawl back int o bed with your brother in your mothers basement.

        • DHS2020

          because Zbigniew Brzezinski & company radicalized the Mujahadeen when we were funding and arming them against the Russians.

          When asked if he regretted it, he replied:
          “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?”

          • Gman79

            Why Brzezinski’s statement hasn’t gone down as the worst prediction in history *ever* is beyond me. He was no Nostradamus, was he?

          • oldbuildingsrule

            If you can remember, to most westerners, it was the end of the soviet union

        • Margaret

          Why do Homegrown terrorists exist? You are ignorant and assume all terrorists are Muslim!
          Army of God, Lambs of Christ,Concerned
          Christians, Eric Ruldoph, Hutaree, The Covenant, The Sword, Army of
          Lord, Defensive Action, The Freedom Community, Ted Kazinski, Byron
          Williams, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Scott Roeder, Shelly
          Shannon, James Von Brunn, Joseph Stack, James Lee. ALL not MUSLIM! Read a book!

          • ugh

            Dagestan is not part of the US, twit.

          • Margaret

            So your saying there is a difference between Homegrown terrorists and Islamic terrorists? Twit! There is no difference, they both kill idiot read a book!

        • Gman79

          That’s a rather stupid statement, and a crap analogy. Hitler and the Nazis were successful because they managed to make one group of people irrationally hate another group of people based purely on their religious identity. It was the Jews back then, the Muslims now.

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      • fiftyforty

        Anjali ou are a fool. His wounds came about from a shootout earlier in the night when he and his brother were lobbing homemade pipe bombs at the police. Get a clue.

        • Kimberlee

          you have no idea when those injuries were sustained – I, like many, many others watched his capture and all of the events leading up to it. They PUMMELED that boat with gunfire. I am not saying it’s wrong, but if you’re going to call someone a moron, have some factual info to back it up.

          • JohnWayne

            I am curious as to where all those bullets went. That thin fibreglass skin of the boat didn’t stop them. How many people were endangered when a single aimed round would have finished it.

          • kenlaw

            Thin fiberglass? What an idiot. Those bullets will not go through both side of the boat and still have enough velocity to do any type of damage to anyone depending if it was a .223 or .308 it would probably just go through 1 side and just slam into the other pistol rds wouldnt even make it through and if it did it would be in pieces when it exited maybe y0u should fire a gun before you open your dem cock sucking mouth pussy

          • PigmentLiner

            I’ve shot .308 rounds through 3/8″ steel at 100 yards, pretty sure they would clear a couple 1/2″ pieces of fiberglass at 20… I doubt they were shooting that thing with .308 anyways. Tried to fact check the fiberglass density but couldn’t find it; here’s an interesting site though.

            http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm

            I’m with John Wayne on this one.

          • Mr taco

            Through 3/8 inch steel at 100 yards..? I’m calling shenanigans on that. You sure you’re not slinging .338 lapua rounds down range?

          • gdooley

            .308/7.62 FMJ will make very nice holes in 3/8 sheet, if hit squarely, at 100m.

          • Icarus8

            Uh, I have to agree with Mr taco. .308 rounds won’t penetrate 3/8″ steel. In fact, they won’t even penetrate 1/4″ steel. I base that on the steel silhouette targets we used on the range at Pendleton with our M40A1s and 175-grain match grade rounds. I don’t know the grade of steel with certainty, but I’m confident it was just standard mild steel. I also agree with regard to fiberglass. A .223 rd. will easily punch through multiple layers of fiberglass with plenty of energy left to kill. I haven’t tested that, but I have some experience with terminal ballistics.

          • PigmentLiner

            I guess it really depends on the grade of the steel, since I have empirical evidence to back up my story as well (still have the target). Plenty of similar accounts on here. Curious: http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/misc/28302-308-metal-penetration.html

          • Jake_V

            classy, fool.

          • Mr taco

            Maybe you should take a class in physics before you go spouting off like you know something. At 3200fps and about a 1000 foot pounds of pressure a 223 will most certainly will penetrate fiberglass and have enough force to punch through the other side and kill someone. A 308 is going to have an easier time than that. However, I’m sure they aimed at a downward angle and kept their background behind their target in mind.

          • http://twitter.com/GailC14 Gail Calhoun

            how sure are you of their caution in firing? Would you bet your life?

          • baintomt

            you are an idiot

          • baintomt

            Kenlaw pussy
            you are still and idiot
            you better go shoot some more moron

          • Jay

            Another moron sounds off. What do Dems, cocks and pussies have to do with any intelligent dialogue here. Not getting any? Go get a GED.

          • Christopher Bonham

            Jay, I typically vote Democrat, and even I know that Tsarnaev’s wounds are from the events leading up to his capture. I watched the entire thing unfold while at a hotel up in Denver, and while I don’t own any firearms, I do have a basic understanding of police procedure and tactics – I’m pursuing a degree in Criminal Justice and was taught quite a bit about law enforcement operations during an internship with a local law enforcement agency here in Colorado last year. To all these idiots who are making it obvious that they’re buying into the bullshit conspiracy theories surrounding the Boston Bombing and the suspects, I say this: keep your mouth shut. You weren’t there, and just because some angry loudmouth from Texas (yes, I’m talking about media personalities like Alex Jones and these idiot “Free Jahar” teens) or elsewhere tells you it was a hoax doesn’t give you license to buy right into it.

          • muffinman

            The .308 will go through the boat (unless there is some metal in the frame or other metallic parts inside it) . It has enough energy, especially at such a close range .

          • oldbuildingsrule

            the only idiots here are the suspected bombers.

          • TheDeuce

            That is entirely inappropriate, and only evidences how immature and uneducated you are.

          • Gman79

            Maybe they were magic bullets. Or maybe it was a huge conspiracy so that Obama can now personally kill everyone with drones. Or maybe the boat had a deflector fucking shield. Or maybe …

          • http://twitter.com/GailC14 Gail Calhoun

            Edward Davis Boston Police Commissioner, has said Drones will be a part of the next Boston Marathon Race

          • Lama

            or maybe, you’re an asshole?

          • KevinSchmevin562

            Maybe because there was a high possibility of him having MORE pipe bombs? It’s a reasonable assumption, you know, given the events that took place prior.

          • NoBigGovDuh

            They had thermal images to know he didn’t

          • yangreen

            unexploded bombs dont have a heat signature

          • jake

            who give a flying fuck. They should have domed him in the first place and called it good. Actually they should have desecrated his boday as a warning to all of those religious nuts that we wont stand for there petty bullshit anymore.

          • Matthew Minard

            or put him in front of a camera with a guy behind him screaming some American diatribe about how our religion is better than their religion….

            Just like the friggin terrorists ya moron.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            Only a “moron” can equate Christianity and Islam.

            The Son of God committed no sin, spoke only the truth, healed the sick, raised the dead, died for the sins of the whole world, and resurrected, commanding His people to love even their enemies and giving the world the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.

            On the other hand, the genocidal pedophile Muhammad preached and practiced anti-Semitism, genocide, child sex slavery, rape, slavery, torture, mutilation, extortion, theft, polygyny, wife-beating, religious and gender apartheid, deceit, sedition, and treason, warning his people that “Allah made me do it, and you will too, or else!” and sacralizing the violation of all Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.

            Christianity is as far from Islam as Heaven is from hell.

            So, yes, “our religion” is better than theirs.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            (A vote down? So, you like genocidal pedophiles masquerading as prophets?)

          • Marta Rizzo

            Is that the same religion as Bush and Cheney who invaded and attacked Iraq, based on lies, for not reason at all, a nation that had nothing to do with WMD, nor ties with 911 or OBL… and in the process over 100K innocent Iraqi babies, women and men were killed? Any other place that is CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY! So that is a good religion?

          • Anonymous

            Riiight … because it was Christianity and religious fervor that sparked off the Iraq War and not something as absurd as the geopolitical and financial interests of a small group of politicians and industrialists. Please tell us more about how pretexts are actually causes, Marta.

          • mariasoledade

            If God hadn t provided
            for so much oil in Iraque…..

          • alexdifeo

            BS, our religion had nothing to do with Bush and Cheney….in fact we let Christians be SLAUGHTERED after the fall of Saddam, Mubarak, Ghaddafi, and now Assad..we are not driven by love for Christian brethren, rather we are driven by power, influence, money, resources..

          • CDODGE2

            So, because a past president made a bad call in your opinion, this kid had the right to kill innocent people as well?

          • BrickinaWall

            Maybe all he did was make a bad call…..

          • CDODGE2

            Who made a bad call? Tsarnaev?

          • mariasoledade

            Right marta. The head of the same church told on Tv that he only backed Bush because he promised to help him with his charities and not because he believed in Bushes arguments for the war:as Bush didn t fullfill his promise he removed his backing. There has been a lot of crimes commited with God s unknowingly backing up.
            Religion was born to fullfill peoplke s need to explain natural phenomena.The need for it declined as science provided the answers

          • Mark Daniels

            religion is stupid. keep calm and eat taquitos.

          • Dan

            I want some taquitos

          • Matthew Minard

            with that mindset the war is already lost my friend…

            obviously you crapped a lot of religious indoctrination outta your mouth without understand the idea that once you engage in the same behavior as your “enemy” then have lost… kinda like Jesus taught his disciples.

          • Isla

            I usually don’t respond to these kind of things but seriously? Have you read Qur’an or you only know the things that anti-Muslim post on the internet? By reading your comment I see that you know NOTHING about Islam and the prophet Muhammad. Don’t try to play smart and talk about things you don’t know about. First educate yourself on this religion by reading Qur’an or some other book about Islam from people who know about the religion then, and just then you have the right to discuss matters like this.

          • CDODGE2

            Eff the Qur’an… Terrorist

          • Tony

            Both religions are full of shit they both are terrorist groups…

          • Jeremiah Huijdts

            He is just ignorant, best you can do what you did before… ignore it! I’ve red both books, must say was more impressed by the Quran yet it is all just a message, a guideline it does not state to take up arms or whatever. I love this random qoute: Stop taking my book so litteraly

          • CDODGE2

            I’m not ignorant because I don’t like the Qur’an.

          • Jeremiah Huijdts

            no you are indeed not ignorant because you don’t like the Quran, thats ur right as human!

          • CDODGE2

            you’re a retard ;) and that is your right

          • ugh

            It works great as toilet paper. Lots of sheets too!

          • Phillip Murray

            No religion is better than any other. A person’s religion is based primarily on where you were born, nothing else. Religion, whether Christian, Islam or Voodoo is nothing more than a well developed superstition. Religion has been the cause of most of the misery of the human race. The crusades, inquisitions, witch trials, gay bashing, Boston bombing, all based on various religious beliefs. Wake up and use your brain for something other than memorizing nonsense from the Bible or any other superstitious control manual.

          • Anonymous

            “Religion has been the cause of most of the misery of the human race.”

            Yeah, no, I’d argue that selfishness and its consequences have been the cause of most of the misery of the human race but I’m sure you actually thought that bold claim through and didn’t just parrot some inane, baseless slogan.

          • alexdifeo

            Money and women are the root of all evil! That and the Democratic and Republican party ;-)

          • Prodius

            The “love” of money is the root of all evil.
            At least get the quote right.

          • Susan

            Selfishness masked in the name of religion perhaps.

          • solange82200

            Amen brother! Seriously, well said..

          • mariasoledade

            I couldn t agree more.Any religion that functions on the assumption of being the only true one doesn t aknowlege difference and, deserves no consideration

          • Prodius

            So I take it Hitler was a Methodist, Stalin Orthodox Catholic, and Mao was a Presbyterian?
            To claim religion has caused more misery than Atheism is to claim ignorance of the last two centuries.

          • Kathy Dettwyler

            Islam and Christianity worship the same god. The Golden Rule predates Christianity by thousands of years and is part of every religious tradition. Seems like you don’t know much about “your religion”.

          • Ralfine

            Yes, tell that to the dead in Northern Ireland.

          • Jim Jordan

            all religions are delusions, and far more people have been killed in the name of Christianity than in the name of Islam.

          • charles Norman

            You sir are an idiot and have little to no working knowledge of what islam is or preaches, you most likely have not read “Mohammed’s” teachings. Also Jesus is a highly respected prophet in islam and his teachings are included in their teachings. What you have is a very select view of what islam or any religion that isn’t christianity is. By using the same logic I can argue that christianity supports slavery, is anti-gay, pro tortue, execution, polygomy. I could say that christianity has been a net evil in the world far more than islam as it attempted to opress science in the early turn of the millenia whereas islam has been relativly forward looking when it comes to science. Also there are equally extreme christian’s as muslim’s look at the Norway shootings, the treatment of the iraqi population by member’s of the US army.
            And finally a comment on the horrendous actions. They should be persecuted through the court of law with due diligence. At current we do not have enough evidence/ knowledge of the motivations that lead to this act to make any informed comments on why or if he did it. My advice would be sit tight, wait for the trial and gain a better understanding of why there is anger against the US predominently in many middle eastern countries (it is not because you are christian pro tip. But instead might be because you as a country (not as people) have an aggresive view on being the “world police” surveying other countries internet acess, listening in on ambassadors of the country and breaking UN law if it suit’s your purposes. I feel both sides of any war should better understand the other to try and resolve it in a peaceufl manner instead of saying “my religion is better than yours because it is”.

          • mariasoledade

            Right.

          • runnerbp

            The Christian Book of Joshua promotes genocide, Numbers 31:18 “but all the women children that are virgins keep alive for yourselves”?? I guess you kill the rest, but what do you do with all those virgins? Why can’t Christians just stop killing and hating everyone who is not Christian. It sounds like a hate group.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            (Five votes down? A person can’t vote down those comments unless they’re Muslim or suicidal.)

          • SuperWittySmitty

            I’m neither, but your comparison of Christianity and Islam doesn’t work very well from an objective standpoint. I’ve heard variations on it from both sides before and it does not work.

          • Dare

            Or its just apparent to me and most people that you are a religious uneducated nut whose words will fan the flames of other religious uneducated nuts.

          • charles Norman

            Hi, just a point. Islam isn’t a hateful, violent or pro peadophilic religion. They actually have very strict punishment’s against peadophiles and rapists and try to support the victim in all cases of such a thing. I just ask that you read religious texts before arguing them and try to take in the greater context of a book rather than pinpointing rather extrmeme interpretations (on the topic of mohammed being a peadophile he married a 12 year old and consomated the marriage at 18, which isn’t really peadophilic it is just a custom to have arranged marriages).
            Btw not a muslim, not suicidal. I’m a happy athiest.

          • Lama

            All religions cause people to see non believers as “others”. When you marginalize people, contempt for them is bred. When you have contempt for people, it can soon turn to irrational hatred and an “us vs them” attitude. You’re brand of religion vs their brand of religion vs my belief in the flying spaghetti monster are all just that…beliefs without a shred of actual, physical, tangible proof. You are free to believe what you want, but don’t go shoving it down people’s throats, or they’ll shove back and shove back hard.

          • tigerpawraw

            What’s a boday, some kind of head scarf or something? Hahahaha!

          • Kathy Dettwyler

            You mean like the right-wing Republican religious nuts?

          • Anonymous

            Wow, you’re views are disgusting, Jake.

          • ayup

            When you say “religious nuts”, I am assuming you are including all forms of fundamentalism in that phrase? Including fundamental Christians who take matters into their own hands in our “civilized” world?

          • ayup

            To clarify, I condemn no religion per se, just those individuals who capitalize on a religion to support their otherwise unconscionable actions.

          • Jeremiah Huijdts

            you need help!

          • wsorrian

            Pipe bombs don’t give off heat until they explode, genius.

          • innocent bystander

            One could assume that the injuries were sustained during the earlier altercation with the authorities due to the fact that the owner of the boat stated that they had seen blood on the boat. That is what alerted them to contact the authorities. Just a little nugget that you might want to consider.

          • Kimberlee

            Absolutely – understood, I’m simply saying there were several opportunities for him to be injured given the day’s events. I’m not in agreement with the statements regarding law enforcement’s handling of the situation.

        • DHS2020

          aerial pic shows him entering boat apparently unscathed. No visible marks.

          • Melissa

            Ariel photos of him entering the boat? What are you talking about? If they had those, Boston wouldn’t have been shut down for an entire day.

          • DHS2020

            ll-media.tmz.com/2013/04/20/0420-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-cbs-boat-3.jpg

          • http://www.miketheinfidel.com/ MikeTheInfidel

            That’s a picture of him GETTING OUT OF THE BOAT, idiot. See the police spotlight? When he got IN the boat, it was daylight.

          • DHS2020

            good call.

          • Aprilxiv

            Pulled that one out of your assular area, huh? Actually, he was discovered because of the blood he left on the tarp climbing into the boat. Remember that? Or have you read or followed any of the ACTUAL story?

          • DHS2020

            I was merely commenting on the image and what it depicted.

            I’m not going to be quick to believe every statement in a story about this incident because there are many “facts” that ended up being wrong, or corrected.

          • 2gether4vr

            This is why people should refrain from commenting. If you don’t have the facts you look pretty ignorant.
            Granted all the facts will not be known until after the trial starts . As far as the picture on the cover, I think using a photo shopped image to portray a mass murderer as a teen heartthrob simply proves that there are those in this country who care very little about integrity. It gets down to the bottom line and nothing else. If the article is as “fantastic” as they claim then this kid’s mug shot or him standing behind the child that he was about to murder because of his fanaticism would have been the moral empathetic decision.
            This is not about the first amendment. Print what you want. It is about utilizing a moral code that dignifies your choices and shows compassion and empathy in those actions. I hope most American’s will show support for the families of those who were killed and the people who lost limbs by letting Rolling Stone Magazine sit untouched on the racks this month.

          • DHS2020

            Not as a teen heartthrob, as a young “Americanized” man who became disillusioned.

            I bet you MANY YOUTH in America can relate to his feelings.

            I’m 31 and fairly successful, and even I am not happy with a lot of what is going on. I’m not going to bomb anyone, though. That only justifies that which I dissent against.

        • NoBigGovDuh

          There is video of the moron cops all opening fire on the boat trying to execute him.

          They didn’t give a second thought to the fact that they could have hit an innocent person.

          • oldbuildingsrule

            I’m sure they did give a second thought about it. Behind the boat was water & I’m sure the area was cleared of innocent civilians.

          • Lama

            Do you know that neighborhood? I do. There is no water there. Yes, its called Watertown. The Charles River is about .5 miles from this location though. No water in that back yard. check google maps if you want proof.

        • Ryan E

          MMMMM I just love gobbling up ” official stories’ as they seem to be so accurate lately. I mean why would they lie right . GTFO

        • Thomos Smith Ward

          Wow, uh, probably because he was throwing bombs that EVERYONE knew he used to kill people with before at the cops who were trying to catch him?

        • Jeremiah Huijdts

          thats irrelevant.. its about the center of the problem, which is most important. Without knowing were the problem comes from it is impossible to solve..

      • I_Go_Pogo

        Madness all around. In the country that a mere 7 years after 9/11 elected a POS like barack hussein obama…um, um, um

        • rdl114

          Not once, but twice did we elect President Obama… using his middle name is like a school kid jibe, so grow up… and he’d win again because the right wingers are just like the terrorists. Anti-human, belief in nothing, mindless destruction, self-aggrandizing, power mad. The end of the radical right wing in the White House is at hand. Hillary for at least 4, then some of the new guard. The white right wing is cooked. Not to mention they are cheaters in elections – cheaters of the worst rank.

          • kenlaw

            Lol You sound like a fag after what that nigger has done to this country there wont be a dem or another big lipped blue gummed stime in the WH for a long time. Thank god……

          • Ily Michael

            Oh your intelligent remarks make us want to listen to you all night! Name calling shows your lack of intelligence, maturity and information.

          • Margaret

            Wow! Your intelligence is stunning. You ignorant racist a*shole!

          • Serge Isaac Barou

            Your animosity toward everybody who is not indoctrinated with your ideology aside… what’s wrong with anyone’s middle name? You are ashamed of yours? Or just of O’bambi’s?

          • Jake_V

            America is doomed because of lame ignorant mindless mind numbing ignorant people like YOU.

            Your statement is so sickening wrong and sad at the same time.

            People like you, YOU are whats wrong with this country.

          • oldbuildingsrule

            “Anti-human, belief in nothing(?), mindless destruction, self-aggrandizing, power mad” describe liberals!! Look in the mirror, please. Conservatives DO have strong beliefs. Power mad are progressive libs, too. I can somewhat see where you’re coming from, but you need to look in a different light, really.

        • DHS2020

          since when has it mattered which puppet figurehead gets installed into the office of the Presidency? LOL voting.

        • Margaret

          Madness all around, we elected a President in 2000 who ignored warning signs from our intelligence community before 9/11

          • P Zano

            So did Clinton.

      • Guest

        Anjali, him and his brother are alleged to have killed a campus cop sitting in his car and almost killing another cop. Those wounds were inflicted when he was shooting back at cops in a standoff where he ran over his fatally wounded brother getting away hours before he hid inside that boat. You should inform yourself before making post. They were firing teargas into the boat to get him to surrender after a robot removed the boat cover.

        • Anjali

          I think they were firing more than teargas into the boat…some 200 rounds of ammunition. That’s what I was referring to.

        • DHS2020

          aerial photo shows young Tsarnaev entering boat with no visible wounds.

          • KSuchdeve

            No. No there isn’t.

          • DHS2020

            my mistake, it is his departure.

      • Glenn Grimstad

        Anjali, Yes there are bad things that happens from our leaders. We all know that. It happens in every country,, but that does not mean its residents agree with the aggression. Americans know where they came from, we embrace it,,, it is why we are the melting pot of the world. NO where in the world can you practice religion as freely as you can in America without repercussion. We had a “white kid” that shot up a movie theatre in a joker costume. This person had a problem and used the media to glorify what he did. He had hate in him. The worst thing we did was put him on the news. He wanted that as now a person with no life now is a media sensation. Now, people that are in total despair will try and outdo him.. This is my point. glorifying him will lead to copycat bombings from weak people that just want their name on the map. You may be the next residual death…. I hope not,, you seem to care.

        • Anjali

          I’m actually against the Rolling Stone cover. I thought the article was really good, but he should not have been on the cover. I’ve been talking about these specific pictures and how they highlight the mistakes that were made. With the Aurora tragedy and then again with the Newton tragedy, I would have hoped we would have engaged in serious discussion about mental health issues and gun control in the country. Unfortunately, nothing has changed. He might become some sort of sick idol for those suffering from depression and mental illness, and you are right about the cover being potentially dangerous. I’ve been mostly talking about how the action before and after the bombings. Especially with the shadiness of the FBI, remember there was a man killed who supposedly was in connection to a murder, but we will never know. That Chechen was shot 7 times, once in the head. That makes the FBI story of self-defense particularly shaky. I feel as citizens we have a duty to address what may be the infringing of our rights.

          • DHS2020

            but he trained MMA! ;)

      • MyBrooklyn

        let the mindless glorification of the authorities, corrupt politicians, and trigger happy FBI …right on the target. People like obeying herd…,,,

        I despise pigs their sole purpose to put fear in people and inflict financial hardship by arresting people or by giving out summonses. Meanwhile these crooks gateway with everything they can from a simple speeding ticket to the extreme like lying and stealing. Damn herd aka people act like obeying fools, will pay on time their bogus tickets, wont question authority
        and act like stupid brainless losers. We need civil unrest in this damn country….or we just move along and keep watching those stupid TV shows or to busy watching non sense on YouTube. I personally don’t have time to watch non sense because system has me by the balls and I work two jobs just to make end
        meets

        • Heidi Farrington

          goodness, how do you find the time to weed through and comment on all this fine news?

        • Christopher Baird

          I’m glad we have police to protest us from people like you. Go to a town festival or farmer’s market some time. The world is very different than you imagine it to be.

      • Laura Berry

        maybe all you guys should stop pretending like you’re an expert on guns, or what happened. Considering you weren’t there, and all you know of is what you’ve read & seen on tv. If people weren’t so quick to insult each other over a debate on something they truly don’t know a damn thing about. Maybe, just MAYBE this world might be a better place. But it’s full of “know it all’s”, and if you don’t agree it’s time to argue over it, and try to one up each other. Reply after reply of someone who thinks they know better than the above person, and insult after insult. None of you make yourselves sound creditible, and only remind everyone of the fucked up world in which we live.

      • IsThatACock

        Kudos to you for calling it as it is. Not enough people are willing to say what needs to be said!

      • Thomos Smith Ward

        It’s not. It’s not a proper response at all. But 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

      • http://www.takeshiyashima.com/#axzz2HvCwY7Om Takeshi Yashima

        I don’t know who u r. but I am simply amazed to see the level of wisdom u have shown here. how do u know so many things and how u managed to write everything in such a wonderful order. I guess u r a lecturer, aren’t u?

      • TheDeuce

        Anjali, you should try working in law enforcement or the military to see just how it feels and how hard a job it is. Then you might understand.

      • Candi Crain

        Maybe if they had offered him a lolly pop and a hug he would have come out of the boat on his own and surrendered?

        Even if your statement had been based on the reality of the event , let us not forget that none of his victims were armed, he is a terrorist on United States soil, he killed innocent American’s. I don’t care if they water board his ass on live TV! America needs to grow some new patriots, the ones we have now are watered down!

      • Triste Lopez

        If it wasn’t for the Asian man and the boat owner…we wouldn’t have gotten them.
        “We?”

      • David_from_San_Diego

        “We should seriously questioned what happened to this once normal kid to turn him into an alleged mass murderer …”
        What happened to him is a brain infection called, “lsIam”.

      • Schuitman Jeroen Laurens

        You are perhaps one of the few who has a sound mind on this issue. People seems to forget that magazines like Rolling Stone can have a great impact on our youth. So by showing Tsjarnaev’s “normal” face it will create awareness that its easy for youngsters to fall into the hands of islamic violent behaviour! Some people just need to think twice before posting anything at all ! Thumbs Up !

      • raulmetalhead

        Some good insights on what actually happened vs what the mainstream media wants us to believe. Please check the comments… some are very informative. Thanks

        http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/05/14/who-in-boston-bombing-story-mysteries/

      • nonyabiz

        Allah is to blame

      • runnerbp

        anjali, why don’t you view catching Tsarnev as simply a very difficult task? Why do you choose to see the police as incompetent? If you begin to think in a logical and rational fashion it is easy to see that even with many, many organized police it was very difficult to find someone who doesn’t want to be found and whose purpose in life seems to be to kill as many people as possible. The idea that more can be done with fewer police with less information is completely irrational.

    • timtedtomtod

      Oh man, how can you possibly think that Rolling Stone’s own decision has nothing to do with Rolling Stone. They knew that photo would look ‘glamorized’ in the context of a Rolling Stone cover shot. I’m not sure yet if they finally answered the question on weather or not they photoshopped it, but that fact is especially important for the way I ultimately feel about it.

      • WilliamYancey

        They also know their readership-young people who are mad at “gubmint” and think the Tsarnaevs were set up. They knew they’d eat this up.

        • Aaron K Kraus

          Rolling Stone’s own demo sheet, for reference.
          http://www.srds.com/mediakits/rollingstone/demographics.html

          • Dan Flathers

            Are you saying the publishers don’t wish to return to the glory days?

          • Aaron K Kraus

            No, just saying that impressionable youths are hardly Rolling Stone’s only audience or even a majority of it. Need proof? Look at the other stories on the cover — On the Bus With Willie Nelson, The Arctic Ice Melt, Gary Clark Jr. – The Reluctant Guitar Hero.

          • Dan Flathers

            Mine was a rhetorical question…Think about it.

          • FunkTron

            A rhetorical question that has little to do with anything real minus proof of some sort that it matters.

      • Heidi Farrington

        you can find the original shot online, it’s been out for a while, all they did really was crop it.

    • Dan Flathers

      Seriously, Aaron?
      One need only look at the byline accompanying the RS cover photo to understand what RS wishes to portray…

      Those concerned with RS “present(ing) him as an enticing role model to young readers because of his looks” are rightly concerned because of the editorial choice.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        “The Bomber; How a Popular, Promising Student Was Failed by His Family, Fell Into Radical Islam and Became a Monster” — yeah, none of that is worth looking into; I’d rather be continually surprised by the horrible things that people do than spend any time trying to understanding why they happen and working to prevent them in the future.

        • Dan Flathers

          That’s what trial analysis is for — not what RS has to say about excusing his presumed ‘troubled family life.’
          BTW: Sarcasm is best effective when having a basis for it.

          • brian_x

            Explaining something does not mean excusing it. Please write that fifty times on the blackboard, erase it, and do it again.

          • Aaron K Kraus

            Thank you for explaining sarcasm to me.

    • Andy Trimble

      My objection is that a scumbag magazine once again glamorizes a scumbag. Freedom of speech and of the press comes with a responsibility, and that is, to tell the truth. It is not to sell magazines. There is nothing cute or sexy or alluring about this terrorist. To post a photograph of him as such is intellectually dishonest, and leads young people and other impressionable minds to value style over substance.

      Freedom of the press is a value. Using it without values, but merely for profit, is disgusting.

      • Adan Avalos

        And you know the truth? There is allways 2 sides of the coin….What american says it happened, What Tsarnaev says it happened…And the truth my boy;It’s the thin line between the 2 sides of the coin.

        • BigDaddy65

          The truth is that these two cowardly brothers put bombs at the feet of innocent men, women and children and walked away smiling. We have video from stores and spectators that confirm this without a doubt. Same kids, same clothes, same backpacks, from multiple sources. So you’re right that there are two sides of this story, the right side and the wrong side. Which side are you on?

        • Guest

          But it’s the Rolling Stones, ffs. That cover has exclusively been entertainers in the past. They are using the event for profit more obviously than anyone else, they deserve the criticism they are receiving.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        That “scumbag magazine” has been awarded three National Magazine Awards for reporting since 1993; that’s more than NYT Magazine, The Atlantic, Newsweek, and National Geographic.

        • Thomos Smith Ward

          Good point, although the only category of that award I would consider relevant would be the “Reporting” one – which the Rolling Stones actually won 4 times since 1986. I wish you had mentioned this in your first comment.

        • Thomos Smith Ward

          But the cover has almost explicitly been reserved for musicians and/or famous entertainers, not mass murderers, which is what makes it more offensive to me. It wouldn’t be offensive if it was just an article within the magazine

          • http://doubleadoublek.com/ Aaron K Kraus

            I think challenging expectations and demanding deeper exploration is probably a good thing.

      • DavidStalling

        Actually, the article and the photo do indeed depict the truth. This terrorist happened to be cute, sexy and alluring. The photo is accurate. It actually helps show young people and others that appearances can be deceptive — that we should actually look at substance over style. You just don’t want to accept and face the truth.

    • Nicholas Match

      Aaron, I love your comment. With regards to your last point though, I would like to say that RS has the right to grab readers attention with a cover that goes against the grain of how we typically portray terrorists. In fact “sensational” is the perfect word because the public’s interest should be provoked by this cover; i.e. proved into READING the article. The juxtaposition within the cover — a seemingly normal looking young man next to giant text “THE BOMBER” — perfectly reflects the content of the article. The line between grabbing the prospective readers attention and doing it for the $$ becomes even more blurry when considering the time and journalistic energy put into an article of this weight, sensitivity, and magnitude.

    • Hey Blue

      Sorry Aaron, you went right off the tracks in the first paragraph. Glamorizing infamous psychopaths has a proven link to ‘copycats’. Putting him on the cover says to unbalanced minds, “hey all I have to do is make a couple of cheap bombs and I can be on the cover of an ultra hip magazine like Rolling Stone”. Do you really believe the shootings in Oregon and the shootings in Connecticut were unrelated?

      Regardless of the 1st Amendment the press has a responsibility to the general public who pays their salaries. Rolling Stone is giving everyone the finger in the name of selling a few more magazines and driving ad revenue. Any claims they make regarding “complexities” and gaining “more complete understanding” is blowing smoke. It’s about the almighty dollar and propping up revenue which has dropped over $56 million since 2007.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        I don’t think the First Amendment says what you think it says regarding the responsibility of consumer-driven press.

        There is no “general public who pays their salaries” except for those that buy their product — even IF they we’re a tax-payer funded media entity, there’s little legal precedent to suggest that the courts would intervene to ban an image from publication.

        • Hey Blue

          Is Rolling Stone legally allowed to publish the picture of the Boston bomber on the cover? Of course. Should they be allowed to publish it? Again, yes. Should they have the journalistic integrity to refrain from publishing sensationalistic covers which put the public in danger just to boost sales? I think so.

      • FunkTron

        Without smoking gun proof, your assertion about shootings in Oregon and Connecticut are worthless. Not to mention a terrible stretch in logic to begin with.

        • Hey Blue

          Right because copycat killings never happen. Get your head out of your ass funky.

    • GreyMatterTripp

      Eloquently stated.

    • Clay Riggioni

      “even sympathetic”? The manifestation of your man crush is more than a little creepy.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        The manifestation of your ignorance is more than a little creepy.

    • KayBee

      Well said! People such as yourself give me some hope that Americans are not all gluttonous imbeciles who prefer to remain in ignorance than broaden their view of the world.

    • nicstage

      Hear! Hear! Very well said.

    • luciano26

      *golf clap*

      • niuguy

        *slow golf clap*

    • Every journalist ever

      “you’re arguing such a narrow view of journalism and journalistic priorities” – You sir obviously have no clue what you’re talking about, because you’re acting like the writers of Rolling Stone are the watchdogs of democracy. It’s a pop culture magazine, not a goddamn news authority. It’s socially irresponsible, and you’re completely inept if you don’t see that. By the way one of the principle ideas of quality journalism is to minimize harm – sticking a terrorist’s face on the cover page of a rock and roll magazine is exactly what good journalist WOULDN’T stand for. Get your act together.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        I think the Nation Magazine Award jury would disagree with your characterization, having awarded the magazine three Reporting awards in the last 20 years — more than NYT Magazine, The Atlantic, Newsweek, and National Geographic.

        • Serge Isaac Barou

          Another blathering with no sense… so journos from the Nation scratch journos’ from RS back… and then the former return the favour… so what? Since P J O’Rourke stopped writing for RS, it became a totally useless rag.

          • Aaron K Kraus

            I’d love to see your approved reading list.

          • P Zano

            Do you think the Nation Magazine Award jury will give RS an award for this article?

    • AmosDWright

      It’s the headline, not the photo. It’s the idea that he’s just a poor, pretty boy, misunderstood, and driven – by a society that failed him – that everyone finds repulsive.

      As the banal observation goes, I’m sure Hitler’s dog loved him. But what the headline does is posit that WE are responsible for him.

      “Yes,” they may begrudgingly admit, “he should be put away in
      the Hague for the rest of his life, but that’s only like a dog that was forced to fight. The failure is ours.”

      You, actually, have it backwards. These folks are not offended that the cover paints him as human, it’s that it paints him as without human responsibilities, and pins them on us.

      During the Iraq theatre, Progressives were (and still are) fond of putting every casualty at America’s feet, as though Syrians who decided to go to Iraq (which is not their country either, FTR), and murder women and children, did not actually decide to do it, were not actually responsible for it. America made them do it. As sure as the sun rises, every death was our fault. The position is absurd – Nepalese did not flock into Tibet to kill Tibetan women as a result of China leveling their temples – but it was tolerated because Bush.

      The farce gets less tolerable when it’s in our back yard.

    • Jen90

      Who cares what he went through. Why don’t you put Osama Bin Laden on your cover and talk about his childhood and what he went through. No you wouldn’t because no one cares and there is no good excuse or reason for what the brothers did. I don’t care if they were beat everyday with a whip and hundred lashes that is still not a good excuse to do this to
      these people. This is the problem we make too many excuses for young people now a days when there is no excuse and needs to be punishment. You all act like he was a troubled “boy” and just drive drunk and had an accident did something stupid acting out. NO! He murder people and blew their limbs off and it doesn’t matter what he went through in his childhood! Not only that but he did it with a smirk on his face and he was very pleased with himself like most terrorist are when they do there attacks

      • Aaron K Kraus

        I think the quote goes something like “Those who make no effort to understand the past are condemned to repeat it but they’ll be too busy complaining about magazine covers to notice what’s happening.”

        Exploring the factors that lead to criminal behavior is NOT the same as excusing the crime.

      • DavidStalling

        I would be interested in reading about the childhood of Osama Bin Laden, and trying to understand what shaped and created the man and his actions. But explaining and understanding are not the same as “excusing.” I did not find anything in the current Rolling Stone article that excused a terrorists actions.

    • Jen90

      I’ll be honest with ya. Everybody got a story. Their parents beat them. They didn’t fit in. They were young and stupid. They were on drugs. Blah…blah…the reasons don’t matter. Otherwise we can just give a pass to anyone. People need to take responsibility period.

      • DavidStalling

        The article tells the story of a particular terrorist. It in no way makes excuses or passes blame onto anyone other than the terrorist. It examines his life and tries to help us understand what led a seemingly normal, likeable guy to do such terrible things. Examination and understanding do not equate to making excuses or passing on blame and responsibility. By examining and trying to understand we may be better able to prevent similar tragic events in the future.

    • JJ

      So well put.

      Though I think the argument could be made that this space (cover of Rolling Stone) is historically used for images of idols and thereby idolizes Mr. Tsarnaev

      Everyone loves to be shocked and outraged but everyone’s talking about it

      When’s the last time Rolling Stone courted this much attention?

      • http://doubleadoublek.com/ Aaron K Kraus

        “Though I think the argument could be made that this space (cover of Rolling Stone) is historically used for images of idols and thereby idolizes Mr. Tsarnaev” — I think this was probably part of their discussion. However, it really only idolizes him if you actively avoid the article and choose to engage the magazine ONLY as a cover image — which is a problem larger than Rolling Stone.

    • Superpower

      You can save your clever logic parsing in defense of pseudo-journalism because in the end, the guy on the cover of The Rolling Stone blew a little kid to bits on Boylston Street.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        True. Now, wouldn’t you like to understand a bit more about why? What motivated him? If there were any opportunities to prevent him from doing so that we missed at the time but could be used to prevent future attacks?

    • Gman79

      Beautifully put.

    • pheromones

      How can you say any of the above has nothing do with Rolling Stone when they chose the photo? Fucking moron.

    • Montjoie

      If you’re an asshole, your name is Aaron.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        Great insight!

      • FunkTron

        If you’ve got no argument and nothing important to add, I’m guessing your name is montjoie.

    • Buck Buckerson

      If one’s concern is that the cover photo glamorizes Tsarnaev–how does that have NOTHING to do with Rolling Stone (a magazine about music where the cover usually goes to rock stars). They are, in fact, the ones doing the glamorizing. It has EVERYTHING to do with them.

    • Schifter

      NOTHING to do with Rolling Stone? If People magazine had put Tsarnaev on their cover, it WOULD have had something to do with People magazine.

      While the article may have been compelling, I think you fail to understand the gravity of the situation.

      Answer me this: If instead of killing 3 people, Tsarnaev had killed 300, do you really think Rolling Stone would have had the audacity to put him on the cover?

      What is the maximum number of people a terrorist can kill before he is no longer worthy of being on the cover of Rolling Stone?

    • DaveGinOly

      You missed my objection – Rolling Stone’s irresponsibility for putting a murderer (any murderer) on the cover of a magazine known for featuring the ultra-hip and the ultra-cool. A “picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone” turns the subject into a cultural icon. With journalistic rights come responsibilities. No murderer should be portrayed, intentionally or unintentionally, as an icon. How the editors missed this responsibility, or why they may have intentionally behaved irresponsibly, is beyond me, considering the place the “cover of the Rolling Stone” has in our culture. The act does discredit to their judgment.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        Can you cite for me the document that delineates these “journalistic rights and responsibilities”?

        As far as your claim that “No murderer should be portrayed, intentionally or unintentionally, as an icon.” well, that’s even more subjective than your first claim. Viewers give photos their meaning. Trying to control a viewer’s reaction is pretty difficult to do in an open society.

    • stampece

      “If your objection is that Rolling Stone’s intention is to drive sales with sensational cover photos, well, yeah.” I guess it’s a matter of whether you think that that’s the only consideration a publication should have, and when they do, whether people have a right to be outraged when it’s a widely distributed magazine visible to anyone entering a convenience mart in Boston and elsewhere. But there’s a bit more than that. Rolling Stone’s text accompanying the image is clearly targeted at Tsarnaev’s cult following (contrast with text that accompanied the ’69 Mason cover), and the photo itself is a selfie, self-selected by the bomber to promote his own image online. Rolling Stone is not the underground, counter-culture publication is in ’69 when they did their Manson cover. It’s a mainstream “institution”. It’s not known to be primarily a news mag like Time. Its cover is famous for presenting rock stars, generally whoever is hot with young fans. It is within this context, I think, that the cover must be considered.

      • Aaron K Kraus

        Well, it certainly differs from TIME in one notable way: it’s won more National Magazine Awards for reporting since 1993 than TIME. In fact it has won more than NYT Magazine, The Atlantic, Newsweek, and National Geographic.

    • nick

      Aaron, please stop drinking the kool aid…..

      • http://doubleadoublek.com/ Aaron K Kraus

        What Kool-Aid am I drinking?

        Speaking of Kool-Aid you shouldn’t drink, care to take a guess at which magazine provided some of the most in-depth and critically-lauded coverage of the Jonestown massacre?

    • FunkTron

      Props to you, Aaron, for cutting through all the emotions and getting to the heart of the matter. This is an excellent comment and well worth all the attention it is receiving.

    • Jim Frame

      You nailed it. Most of these idiots didn’t even read the article.

    • http://marnietunay2.wordpress.com/ fakirscanada

      It takes more than intellectualizing to understand that what the Rolling Stone Magazine did, was done despite the fact they must have known large numbers of people, including all of those directly touched by the bombings, were bound to feel offended – andm that that egregious disregard alone, for the sensibilities of those touched by the bombing, made what the Magazine an unethical act.

      • http://doubleadoublek.com/ Aaron K Kraus

        Even if you think it was insensitive, there’s an important distinction between insensitive and unethical.

        • http://marnietunay2.wordpress.com/ fakirscanada

          Yes. I think what they did was actually unethical: “Not morally approvable.” From the International Business Times: “It was the presentation by a rock ‘n’ roll magazine that seems to be glamorizing — some would say fetishizing — a terrorist. Bathed in soft light, Tsarnaev looks like a member of the Strokes. The photo appears to be a selfie Tsarnaev posted on social media but could just as easily be have taken by Annie Leibovitz.” The Society of Professional Journalist Ethics “includes a section on “Minimizing Harm.” Specifically, the code asks journalists to “show good taste and avoid pandering to lurid curiosity.” It was shock journalism at its nastiest.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mr.cornelison Mike Cornelison

      Rolling Stone can go to hell. I like the two photos of this scumbag with the laser sight spotting his forehead.

      • Matthew Minard

        Mike LIKEY!!!!!

        what a child

    • Oink Trotters

      “an enticing role model to young readers…nothing to do with Rolling Stone”
      - bullshit

      “we are all humans, endowed with a tremendous capacity for both evil and empathy…”
      – bullshit.

      “then you’re arguing for such a narrow view of journalism and journalistic priorities…”
      – bullshit

    • Thomos Smith Ward

      No, no, no, and no. Are you really surprised it’s considered offensive? Tsarnaev is not an entertainer. That cover has almost explicitly been entertainers in the past. Therefore, this is the most blatantly obvious use of this event for profit that I have yet seen.

      It’s a slap in the face to everyone who put their lives on the line in the name of public safety. When I see other media outlets being using the event so blatantly out of place for profit, I’ll be sure to criticize them too.

    • decreator

      Indeed Sir! Well put!

    • Triste Lopez

      if you weren’t the comic book guy on the simpsons, you could have just said, “it’s their legal right to print any cover they choose because it’s their magazine.”
      As for concerns and objections, Rolling Stone is as good as done-for, like so many other gasping, last-leg, dinosaur print products that need cheap tricks to resuscitate relevance.

    • LarrySingleton

      I read the “article”. And this “reporter” obviously doesnt’ subscribe to Jiad Watch, read even one book on Islam or has even read Sheikh Abdullah bin Humaid’s article on jihad.

    • Bolinder

      Go fuck yourself, you terrorist-supporting asshole.

    • standardwilly

      OK so what if RS had done up Tsarnaev in Obama makeup? Or show’d him posing in the RS studio with his gun & some babes? Or sitting at the wheel of a cool muscle-car looking at the camera with a sly, devil-may-care look? Would any of those be inappropriate or offensive? Would I have a right to a beef with RS? Well I have a beef with doing him up like a rock star. Sorry. And yeah my beef IS with rolling stone.

    • Boon Companion

      Yawn.

    • ihf

      I seriously believe there needs to be an internal investigation by the CIA or FBI as to who actually gave the all clear for this cover to be used. Someone working within rolling stone is sympathizing with these terrorists and they need to be flushed out. No matter what they say or what ever reason they give as to why they used his photo, there is no reason to put a terrorist on a young peoples magazine. They want someone else to copy the Boston bomber. We must look beyond the obvious and see the hidden messages in these devilish chess moves made by the underground menace. They are slowly destroying this nation from within.

    • JonaD

      I think the photos above have been released to bring reality to the masses. Too many people with imagination and not enough grounding. I like the ones where he is sitting in the boat, covered in blood… they never showed anything but the FLIR (forward looking infra red) photos during the manhunt and so many people were claiming this guy wasn’t even in there. There are many CRAZY people who grasp at every stupid conspiracy theory they can, but this guy and his brother are real, this guy is pure evil… and yet women still want to suck him off? That informs us about what some Americans have become… start the controversy there!

    • Anondragon

      You’re well designed message hides the fundamental fact that in my opinion you’re missing the big picture.
      What Rolling Stone did was nothing more than advertising for the terrorist. Of course they should be allowed to do so. They could have painted a smiling Stalin if the magazine existed in the 30s while Stalin was busy wiping out 20 million Ukrainians through Starvation.
      The real point is we should be allowed to say that its distasteful. And in this case a good part of society finds it distasteful.
      I think this would be even more sensitive and be a security issue if the man in question was an open enemy to the US IE commiting high treason, or in wartime, etc.

    • http://www.ign.com/blogs/MichaelStevens Michael Stevens

      Yeah, no, being a journalist doesn’t mean you forget what tact is.

      I suppose the fact that these photos were released after the Rolling Stone cover means nothing considering there was absolutely no genuine animosity directed at Rolling Stone over this.

      Nope. The photos above were released solely to drive traffic to the site and not because someone may be a little pissed off.

    • TechArtists

      What a steaming pile of denial.

      Rolling Stone used extremely bad judgement and posted a glamour shot of an unrepentant mass murderer. A glamour shot on the cover of Rolling Stone is a coveted badge of fame. Rolling Stone tells us you can have that badge of fame by committing an atrocity.

    • vee115

      excellent comment. you made your point and actually changed my mind i was uncomfortable thinking 14 yr old girls would fall in love with this tousled, dreamy photo. i thought it was one of those boy banders at first. but yes, this concern has nothing to do with RS once you really consider who and what are presented as heroes and ideals.

    • moz moz

      A similar thing can be said about that Norweigan extremist Brevik who shot all those young people at the youth camp. People wanted to dismiss him as simply ‘crazy’ and were offended when he wasn’t diagnosed as such. I think it is offensive to simply write people off as lunatics, rather than deal with the fact that rational, thinking people can arrive at such terrible conclusions as mass murder. To bury our heads in the sand and call people evil does nothing to prevent future crimes. But if we try and examine the road that led them to the crime, which as you mentioned requires looking at a suspect as a multi-faceted, real human being, we are labeled as ‘disgusting’.

    • Mark Rude

      B.S.

    • Superpower

      You can keep your logic-parsing defense of pseudo journalism. The fact remains that they guy on the cover of The Rolling Stone blew a little kid to bits on Boylston Street.

      • DavidStalling

        That is very true. The fact also remains that the guy on the cover of The Rolling Stone was a good-looking and seemingly normal, likeable guy who doesn’t fit many of our stereotypes and preconceived notions of how a terrorist should look and act and not someone many of us would guess would and could do such horrible things. For that reason, it’s a good match for the cover story.

    • Steve

      You used the word “presents” when the word is Promotes. And that is why the issue is with Rolling stone. /endofstory but nice try.

    • jbentley

      Sorry Aaron. I’m calling bullshit.

      Having that picture on the front page of the New York Times or Washington Post would make sense to provide a human picture of the bomber; those are publications that are trusted with providing journalistic excellence. Rolling Stone represents rock and roll; there is nothing wrong with the picture itself, but were I to see it on the cover of a different magazine, Vogue, let’s say, with a similar tagline, I would be equally confused as to why it should be there – a fashionable, glamorous magazine that is known for covering fashionable, glamorous things.

      Your attempt at altruism is impractical and self righteous. If you think that the people whose spiritual wounds were rubbed with salt by this magazine cover are “arguing for such a narrow view of journalism and journalistic priorities…” then I think your outlook on life is absurdly academic. No one’s mad that an article focuses on the criminal; we’re mad that it makes him look like Jim Morrison.

      You get an A for effort, Aaron. Just not for actually thinking like a human being.

    • Bryan Williams

      This is about the dumbest comment I have ever read on the Internet. What a bunch of insane, leftist garbage. THIS is why our society is falling apart, because the Left’s religion of amorality has become so ingrained in once-traditional American institutions, you people cannot even distinguish between right and wrong anymore. So obsessed with destroying society and rebuilding it into your dystopian fantasyland, you will do ANYTHING that counters common sense. Your favorite pastime seems to be to “humanize” (aka “kiss his ass”) the worst criminals and most evil people on the planet. Anything for the revolution, huh? Who cares how many die? All collateral damage, right? You disgust me.

      • ugh

        Jann Wenner is a ghey athiest who left his wife and three kids for another man. Most of the readers of this despicable rag suffer from the same perverted lack of morals. Figure it out folks.

    • Spike Eskin

      This is the best comment I’ve ever read on a website.

    • Nick099

      This man is not Jim Morrison, nor is he glamorous. If you have ever seen the face of death you would not have written such scibble. Nor would you do anything to encourage the unstable, the radical,or the fanatic, to attempt something like this tragic event again. By RS actions they are clearly encouraging “copycat” activity.

      You can dissect this many different ways to inflate your ego and wow all of the other Lefty worthless morons with your “deep” thinking. Too bad, for all of that, you are still unable to grasp the totality of the consequences and the possible long-term effects of RS’s act.

      Your drivel reminds me of something a college-age student might write. Grow up, your diaper is showing. Imbecile.

    • Joe S.

      Aaron, I appreciate your attempt at simplifying a wide
      spectrum of feelings and attempting to broadly provide different paths of anger and outrage for those of us that don’t see the world as you do. The bottom line is that we, as humans, with a
      capacity for both emotional and intellectual thoughts, have the right to feel however we want to feel. One’s anger towards a particular medium or outlet may not be warranted to you or in-fact justified when one takes the time to think rationally, but then again you’re not in anyone’s head but your own. To simply summarize what, why and where people’s anger should be placed in response to the images published over the last week in a few lousy paragraphs on a comment board is irresponsible. Unless you’re a stakeholder in “Rolling Stone” and people’s protests are personally affecting your well-being, you should concentrate on your own feelings and not try to summarize the thoughts of the masses with a few paragraphs of rhetoric.

      • Unknown1776

        very well said. The man attempts to marginalize people’s feelings on the subject, while telling us how we should feel about this particular subject through his world view.

        And while the article within on Tsarnaev does deal with the real issues behind his story, the cover IS a complete 180 from said story. While I do 100% believe that journalism, no matter how distasteful the subject might be, has that right to spark debate, there is a point where they overreach. This is one of them. There are many other pictures out there for them to have used. He still has friends who could’ve given them a photo. Yet they did make him appear to be a “rock star.” Now, perhaps this was meant to be thought-provoking: the idea that any regular kid (of course, regular is subjective) could turn out so, for lack of a better word, wrong. You go from that glamorized cover to an in-depth, gritty story about the subject at hand, which is, in its way, an attempt at getting a person to think. BUT given the sensitivities of the subject matter at hand (personally I believe his brother was the real monster here and seduced his brother to his way, given the very real emotional attachment that exists between brothers) they should’ve known better.

        Boston is a very proud city. My forebears come from there, and I’ve grown up hearing the stories of its spirit. If you honestly have any inkling as to the feeling of that city, especially after such terrible events, it does not take a genius to realize you’re about to antagonize a very large and close-knit community. They’re a proud people, and this is just a slap on the face.

        Could you imagine the outright furor and indignation there would have been had Rolling Stone done an article with a photo just as “glamorous” on bin Laden following the attacks of 9/11? The author/editor of that particular story would probably (potentially rightfully) never be able to set foot in NYC again.

        So, to come to this glorious ending, while you may have your own views of the subject, however rational/irrational they may be to individuals, there is a very real reaction to be expected from such an article by Rolling Stone. It is not 100% illogical/irrational to see people be unnerved by such journalistic tendencies to put marketing first before thought. They could’ve gone with many other options to still have gotten the point across as far as the subject at hand is concerned.

    • treeher

      Kraus, why are you being such a butt boy for Rolling Stone? I have a friend who lost a job because he put a photo of a noose on the cover of a golf magazine during a Tiger Woods controversy. Now, people are killed, maimed, property destroyed and Rolling Stone portrays the guy as a Jim Morrison wannabe? Compare to the Rolling Stone cover depicting Charles Manson – that showed him as an evil, scary figure. I think a photo of a bloodied Dzhokhar who ran over his brother and shot himself in a cowardly attempt at suicide would be more appropriate.

    • sam

      Sure. I think you need to expand on #4 to hit home though.

    • MichiganGuitar

      Sorry we don’t need bedroom trolls telling us how to think. State your opinion, not a summary of what I think means.

      You are no one.

      • Carol J. Saunders

        He did….17 hours ago.

        Don’t be sad, faulty wiring can be rectified..

    • Jeff C

      orrr we just dont want a terrorists picture on rolling stone because he then gets what he wants. fame. countless people who have murdered are looking for just that and it sends a bad message

    • flying saucer

      Best. Comment. Ever.

    • hunk4hire .

      Blowhard.

      One of YOUR family members was killed by Tsarnaev.

      Tell us you’d still compose this self-congratulatory tripe.

    • Guest

      Aaron, I appreciate your attempt at simplifying a wide
      spectrum of feelings and attempting to broadly provide different paths of anger and outrage for those of us that don’t see the world as you do. The bottom line is that we, as humans, with a
      capacity for both emotional and intellectual thoughts, have the right to feel however we want to feel. One’s anger towards a particular medium or outlet may not be warranted to you or in-fact justified when you think rationally, but then again you’re not in anyone’s head but your own. To simply summarize what, why and where people’s anger should be placed in response to the images published over the last week in a few lousy paragraphs on a comment board is irresponsible. Unless you’re a stakeholder in “Rolling Stone” and people’s protests are personally affecting
      your well-being, you should concentrate on your own feelings and not try to summarize the thoughts of the masses with a few paragraphs of rhetoric.

    • Christopher Baird

      Rolling Stone is a rock star magazine, not a serious journalism outlet. Putting a mass murderer on its cover tells the world: kill a lot of innocent people = rock star celebrity. How can this be so hard to understand? This isn’t a TV show. I was there when it happened. People died. The killer deserves to be forgotten. Not glamorized.

      Aaron K Kraus, you have posted over 26 comments in this one thread. Hijacking a comments thread and drowning out others’ voices does not make you an authority or your comments any more valid. When a religious fanatic blows up your son while you stand and watch and then gets worshipped as a rock star for the act, you won’t be so keen to stretch the gray area of journalism ethics.

      • http://doubleadoublek.com/ Aaron K Kraus

        This “rock star magazine” which you say is “not a serious journalism outlet” has won more National Magazine Awards for reporting since 1993 than NYT Magazine, The Atlantic, Newsweek, and National Geographic.

        I’m commenting and responding to other comments, if you consider that “hijacking a comments thread” well then, we disagree about how comment threads work.

    • Az

      Another idea someone mentioned to me: Perhaps its to show all monsters don’t necessarily look like monsters.

      • Ed_Kel

        That’s pretty much what the EIC of Rolling Stone said. 5 years ago he was a popular kid. Between then and now he somehow fell down and succumbed to radical Islam. He was basically explaining that the magazine was trying to shed light on that aspect of the story.

    • Yukidongo

      They aren’t “humanizing” this demon. They are pandering to the morons that think he is “cute”. They are also, glorifying him and that is a bad move, since it breathes life into the Islamic cause. And, any of you that don’t see that Obama put extremists in power all over the Middle East, and is trying to do the same to Syria–whose population (80%) supports their western way of life, existing freedoms to worship as they please, women working and reading, and they ARE behind Assad–and his agenda is the same here. He has promised certain members of the UN that WE will be Muslim by 2016, and is appointing Extremists to positions in the DOJ, DHS, and State dept to shape our foreign and domestic policy. This boy isn’t evil all on his own. Islam and the supporters of it, are evil. Democracy and Islam are mutually exclusive when you fall under Sharia law. And, you are either with America or Against it. Easy as that.

    • Part Cherokee

      Fair points. Why do you think RS chose this photograph for the cover? What is the potential business benefit to RS?

      (“multidimensional” is the correct spelling and it does not use a hyphen)

    • TIM MCCLELLAN

      My objection is to glib people like you.

    • dimo7

      Spoke like the true Moscovite you are

    • http://wwwdammit.blogspot.com decklap

      Good lord… spare us the undergraduate musings on the human nature of crime. Suffice to say you have missed the point. The man’s issue is with Rolling Stone’s editorializing, and appropriately so. The people who chose the photo cover did so for a specific purpose, so of course it has to do with them and the scope of Tsarnaev’s depravity necessarily cost him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to being soft and cuddly. You can twist yourself into never ending knots of moral equivalency if you like but you do so for your own amusement and don’t really offer anything particularly interesting to the discussion.

    • pepina

      “…about something that has nothing to do with Rolling Stone.” (except that it was Rolling Stone that published the glam op that has the potential to fortify and condone this ‘enticement.’)

      “…we are all humans, endowed with a tremendous capacity for both evil and empathy.” (Allowing evil to triumph empathy is a human choice; very bad choices, occasionally have very bad consequences. One’s pensive face, on the cover of a national magazine, is not a bad consequence.)

      “…a narrow view of journalism and journalistic priorities that the end product would probably do little to educate, enlighten, and engage readers. (I suspect that the victims and their families are already and thoroughly ‘educated, enlightened and engaged.’)

      “….to drive sales with sensational cover photos, well, yeah.” (And that “well, yeah” symbolizes the ultimate act of transforming a lemon into lemonade. God help us.)

    • Melissa Whittinghill

      Well said and I agree with everything you wrote.

    • guest

      If your objection is that Rolling Stone’s intention is to drive sales with sensational cover photos, well, yeah. The well, yeah here shows how as a society we have learned to accept sales and popularity as positive with complete disregard to what those covers represent, the effects they may have, and the sensibilities they may hurt. In general, I’d sort of agree but in this case I think its deplorable to try to profit from a terrorist attack which wounds are still very much open – and you are right boston magazine is driving traffic, but I will go with star wars here, from the light side of the force.

    • mkultra66

      Mr. Kraus, are you saying that Rolling Stone bears no responsibility for glamorizing the alleged Boston Bomber in the eyes of every knucklehead Jihadist looking for inspiration to stuff their underwear full of explosives? I’d venture that many angry, uneducated kids from Crapistan would literally kill to get their smiling faces on the cover of Rolling Stone.

    • disqus_CuhrLDpPHQ

      Sez you. Never heard of Kraus.

    • Mike Goldstone

      The point is that you can look like Jim Morrison and be a terrorist too. Just like you can be a clean-cut young movie star and be a heroin addict. In other words, all I think Rolling Stone was pointing out is that you just can’t spot these people….which is the dilemma for the intelligence services……and having all-seeing eyes through PRISM or whatever probably doesn’t actually help either.

    • SusieQ63

      The people showing “concern” has EVERYTHING to do with Rolling Stone. I’m sure I’m not just speaking for myself in stating that the outrage is stemming from the fact that Rolling Stone glamorizes people, celebrities, and by putting this piece of garbage on the cover they are in fact glamorizing him. A terrorist. He’s not some poor misunderstood lad. He’s a terrorist, plain and simple.

      The editors themselves said in a statement that the terrorist is in the “same age group as many of it’s readers”. How screwed up is that? Let’s glamorize this piece of garbage to our youth.

      If Rolling stone was intending to “drive sales” with sensationalism then they are in fact a major part of the problem in this country. If they’re hiding behind the fact that they wanted to enlighten, or educate, or report to a specific demographic, then they could’ve done a story on the victims and survivors. THAT’S what’s real! THAT’S what we as a nation are left to cope with. Put the spotlight on the victims, not the terrorist because every time his name is mentioned, his likeness portrayed or his image is used, the terrorists get just a little bit closer to winning an we get a little closer to forgetting the victims and losing a sense of what matters!

      • Ralfine

        “The editors themselves said in a statement that the terrorist is in the
        “same age group as many of it’s readers”. How screwed up is that?
        Let’s glamorize this piece of garbage to our youth.”

        You only perceive it as glamourizing because you are dead set on it.

        This guy grew up in America. So, how did you make him what he supposedly is?

        He is your product, if you so will. So what did you do?

        America has 25% of the world’s prisoners. How come?

    • Todd Hymen

      Your a self-immortalizing hypocrite. Slow thinking you read the story. Fast thinking you glance at the cover. Your cover glorifies what this idiot did, and you knew that before you printed the cover. These photos were released as a response by the the Boston Police Department. All your commented voting means is that most people can be fooled. Nice work. The bus leaves at 9. Be under it.

    • James Roy

      Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has nothing to do with Rolling Stone, a MUSIC magazine. Just one small additional part of the objection.

    • FreeDubay

      you read to much into this. Please find a hobby and stop worrying about everything. You have been manipulated by the media.

    • DennisAOK

      Very well put, Aaron! I agree, and I am no fan of the politics of Rolling Stone.

    • Stephanie Choya Guerra

      You’re an idiot. The points you made in defense of the cover are invalid, and I’ll explain why. This issue has everything to do with the company. As a prolific media source, Rolling Stone holds a degree of moral responsibility with regard to the content – that includes images and text – as does any other form of media. That’s the nature of media relations/public relations. Therefore, Rolling Stone magazine is 100% accountable for a tactless cover page, and should be reprimanded. That’s not to say that there isn’t an appropriate way to approach the personal interest story. The simple the and most obvious approach would have been to portray the bomber as he was, post-bombing. I guarantee you the public would have been much more receptive had they chosen truth over aesthetic; that is entirely the Rolling Stone editors’ faults.

    • magic_beans

      Rolling Stone made the Boston bomber look like Jim Morrison. If they are dealing with the blow back from that choice then too bad. An eight year old boy is dead because of this dude who was granted citizenship on 9/11 a year before he tried to kill as many of his fellow citizens as possible. Rolling Stone needs to put on their big boy pants and deal with their decision to glorify a terrorist who kills children.

      • ByTheWay

        Hitler was on TIME saying he was man of the year!

    • nice_marmot

      Wow. Extremely well said. Excellent.

    • http://call-me-ishmael.com/ Tom Kern

      my problem is not that it humanizes him.
      My problem is it makes him seem “cool” and like a celebrity.
      rolling stone did the same thing with charles manson back in the day.
      displaying him as a rock star does nothing for our understanding, empathy, or “enlightenment”
      it just creates a cult for another idiot

    • Lena Tomsk

      CNN would never hire you. They hate people like you, speaking the truth. :)

    • PalaceGuard

      So, you’re saying that the cheesecake photo of a terrorist just flung itself onto the cover of Rolling Stone, and just happened to stick there? Oooookay…..

    • Arminius

      My concern is that Mr Tsarnaev is still breathing.
      An accident of nature that, one hopes, a definitive conviction will put to right.

    • Peter Acker

      It’s very easy to see the problem most of the population has with this cover. Go to Google and search images of Rolling Stone covers. 99% or maybe more, I haven’t done the math because I haven’t looked at every cover, are celebrated icons of tv, music and television. By all means cover the story as serious journalists, but don’t put a pretty picture of the terrorist on the cover, it feeds the mindset of the Mark Chapman’s of the world, it celebrates them. They knew exactly what they were doing by putting him on the cover and I hope it has exactly the opposite effect of what they hoped for in the long run. Douchebag marketing, not journalism.

    • Robert Strong

      Rolling Stone thought it would be a great idea to glamorize a terrorist. So, yeah, it kinda DOES have to do with Rolling Stone.

    • lsbrew

      Aron. I believe you have over thought this. And perhaps you’re the knid of guy that likes to go back and read what you’ve written later to make you think you are somehow smarter than the rest of us. But deep down you know that glorifying this scum was the wrong thing to do and nothing you can come up with, no matter how good it sounds to you, will change that.

    • Andrew Alvarez

      My objection is that Rolling Stone put him on the cover not because he looks “multi-dimensional – even sympathetic” but because he has a pretty face, and that a glamor shot photo of him exists. If he were less “good looking” or such a shot did not exist, they would not have put him there. So of course it has something to do with Rolling Stone.

    • Evan Dickinson

      “If your objection is that the cover photo glamorizes Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
      and presents him as an enticing role model to young readers because of
      his looks then you’re rightly concerned about something that has nothing
      to do with Rolling Stone.”

      If Rolling Stone is the one presenting him as an enticing role model to young readers you cannot claim that it has nothing to do with Rolling Stone.

      This is in effect propaganda. By your logic if a magazine would present a glowing portrayal of Hitler that would not be the magazine’s fault. By your logic any advocacy of anything by anyone is not the responsibility of those doing the advocacy.

      Heaven help us that such stupid gets 5000 up-votes.

    • Richie Villafuerte

      very thoughtful and well articulated. you hit the nail on the head.

    • IJustDoWhatTheVoicesTellMe

      It would have been a whole lot easier if the sniper just pulled the trigger. Now we have to hear liberals whine about how we should forgive him for his crimes. Typical lib spin I can see coming in the future on CNN, MSNBC, HLN, MSM… “Here is a young man who was attempting to reach out and say, I am a hurt young boy who has been the victim of white privilege (although he’s white). The evilness of America and the ills of oppression against immigrants, legal and illegal, have caused him to ask for emotional help in his own inspirational way. This young man is not evil, just misunderstood.”

    • Benjamin Eugene NElson

      Alleged crimes…?

      Seriously?

    • steelers01

      It accomplished one thing. I will never again purchase or read a copy of RS magazine. I surely hope that I am not alone.

    • shihonage

      I can’t believe this bag of insidious demagogy got so many upvotes. The post is full of sleazy wordplay and red herrings with a singular goal – to ABSOLVE Rolling Stone of the criticism they have rightfully earned.

      He actually dares to equate what Rolling Stone did – glamorizing a murderer – with posting crime scene photos to generate traffic.

      Yes, both acts earn money – but one does it at the expense of the victims. ONE of these acts glamorizes the lowest vile of humanity and encourages copycat killers. The other shows that they are caught.

      But way to intentionally miss the point. You must really like hearing yourself talk, even if the end result is the word-vomit of the kind proudly displayed here.

      This is truly the writing of a moral-relativistic faux-intellectual. A creature without a soul, and barely with a brain.

    • Getrealhippie

      hipster douche. Nuff said.

    • Marrkedman

      Perhaps you’d have a different view if one of your close family members was maimed by this sick muslim slime.

    • CSI America

      Really well thought out and articulate response. Wish everyone online had your depth of insight.

    • sam graves

      When Rolling Stone puts him on the cover, it has EVERYTHING to do with Rolling Stone.

    • Toni

      One main goal of almost all businesses is to make money. So saying that Rolling Stone was trying to make a profit out of this issue – that’s not something unexpected, and shouldn’t even be the topic here – it’s like common sense. Moreover there is no proof that Rolling Stone did this Aug issue ONLY to further increase sales. Besides making money, it is possible that Rolling Stone wanted to present a good article to the public. However since Dzhokhar is an alleged terrorist figure, presenting him on the cover could be very risky, but yet the company still decided to do so – they might have thought it was worth the risk by assuming or even after some calculating that in a very worst case the sales wouldn’t hurt too much as our country always embraces controversies.

      The bottom line is Why would anyone(except for their competitors) have objections if Rolling Stone makes money – which has nothing to do with them. It is the cover and the article that the public are concerned about and it has everything to do with Rolling Stone’s philosophy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nibblet.nibblet Nibblet Nibblet

    That sniper should have pulled the trigger.

  • NCSP

    “We are outraged that Rolling Stone glamorized Tsarnaev by illustrating its story with a well-known photograph of his face. Here is a picture showing his nipple and abs.”

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    public has evidence Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
    is being re-manufactured after the event
    manufacturing creative new ‘photographs’ will not
    Salvage Your Destroyed Public Relations Narrative

  • simonsezme

    Thanks for reminding us that all the billions of dollars spent on “terror” is a complete waste of money. Even with warnings from other Nations these keystone cops couldn’t put his brother together. Not even a complete Martial Law lockdown of an entire city was able to find an unarmed teenager who was ultimately discovered by a guy having a cigarette… What a fiasco. Then the morons pumped more than 200 rounds into the boat where the kid was lying. What a bunch of imbeciles. All for an unarmed 19 year old. Pathetic.
    They are too busy listening to everyones skype chats instead of doing real police work.

    • Kyle

      What do you REALLY think about the people keeping your sorry ass alive? I bet you wouldn’t call them imbiciles or morons to their faces, little pussy internet tough guy.

      • Anjali

        Since its our tax dollars funding this whole thing, he has every right to be critical. You don’t have to agree with him.

      • simonsezme

        What name would you use for a large group of Law Enforcement officials who shoot more than 200 rounds of ammunition into a stationery object housing a 19 year old wounded unarmed suspect ?

        • Serge Isaac Barou

          Put on their uniform and do their job better than they do it. Wudya? I’m sure you wouldn’t, you little pussy internet humanist.

        • MichaelBRLA

          What name would I use for law enforcement officials? The word “HEROES” immediately comes to mind. Have you all forgotten that this “wounded” “unarmed” “19-year old” also ignated NUMEROUS bombs — at least one at the Marathon and others while being chased — which killed and maimed 100+ innocent people, not to mention the fact that he and his brother shot and killed an unsuspecting police officer in cold blood, carjacked a man at gunpoint, and terrorized the City of Boston, if not the entire country, for several days?!?!

          • simonsezme

            Well, he is convicted in your mind isn’t he. I will wait for the show trial before I pass judgement thank you.

          • MichaelBRLA

            No, in my mind, he is not convicted. It takes a trial, judge and jury to do that. And while, legally, Tsarneav gets a presumption of innocence, I’m not a judge or jury, so I don’t have to presume #$%!. That said, of course the guy is guilty!!

          • MichaelBRLA

            Why wait? Since we’re not judges or juries, we get to pass judgment in the court of public opinion. If you try to act like you don’t pass judgment on people, well then you’re a liar. And, no, his is not convicted — in my mind or in real life. Only a judge or jury can do that. BTW: Do you really think this guy is going to be found not guilty?! If so, well then you’re a lot dumber than you look! Regardless of my opinion as to whether he did it or not, there is no way in hell this guy gets a fair trial!

          • simonsezme

            Well, you didn’t wait did you? I guess I’m a liar then as I haven’t passed judgment on him. The only evidence I have seen is Law Enforcement firing hundreds of rounds into a stationary object. I think you nailed it on the head when you said he can’t possibly get a fair trial. That speaks volumes.I did notice that 129 commenters clicked on the uptick on my original post to the 7 that clicked the downclick. That tells me something.

          • MichaelBRLA

            Like I said, I don’t have to wait for a trial (and neither do you). I was not being rhetorical when I said, “Why wait?” To the contrary, I was literally asking YOU to tell me why I should wait. Unless you’re THE judge or THE jury in THIS case, you don’t need to wait either.

            And, yes, you are a liar because, despite acting like you haven’t passed judgment, it is quite clear that you have already done so on a few issues. First, you pass judgment on Tsarnaev by implying that he is innocent. Second, you pass judgment on the police and their evidence (or the alleged lack thereof) by concluding that there is nothing more than “Law Enforcement firing hundreds of rounds into a stationary object,” when anyone who has paid attention to this story knows that there is a ton of additional evidence. In the midst of all of your self-righteousness, you also pass judgment a third time by taking aim at the yet-to-be determined judge, jury, prosecutor and defense attorneys. No, you did not expressly mention these people; however, insofar as you have already declared the trial to be a “show,” one can only conclude that you believe they are all incompetent, biased, prejudiced and/or conspiring together to convict Tsarnaev! We don’t even know if there will be a trial, but, according to you, the fix is already in!

            And if the foregoing doesn’t make you feel a little silly, perhaps this will. Your efforts to mask your opinions (particularly by exclaiming that you will not pass judgment until after a trial), have not only failed, but they have revealed an ironic twist. You (purportedly) refuse to pass judgment on this guy in the face of a wealth of information and facts provided by the countless number of media outlets, and, instead, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, you will (allegedly) wait to pass judgment, but only AFTER a “show” trial, i.e., a legal proceeding which you have preemptively deemed a sham! So, if the trial court finds him guilty, you will accept that judgment as your own?! You are really going to wait that long to pass judgment and, then, when it finally comes time to formulate your own opinion, you are going to rely upon the findings of a bogus trial?! Your position is utterly and completely flawed; it has no rational basis; it follows no logic; and, quite frankly, it makes you come across as a fool. You are a living, breathing contradiction!

            BTW: What, exactly, are all of the “upticks” and “downclicks” telling you?? Don’t flatter yourself by thinking that they are any indication as to whether you are right or wrong. Unless you forgot already, this website panders to you and other conspiracy theorists like you, so, of course you’re going to have a lot more people who “uptick” your comments than people who “downclick” them. In other words, it only means that you’re surrounding yourself with other nuts!
            Anyway, it’s been fun. Good day!

          • simonsezme

            Are you for real ?

            “And, yes, you are a liar because, despite acting like you haven’t passed judgment, it is quite clear that you have already done so on a few issues. First, you pass judgment on Tsarnaev by implying that he is innocent”

            Last time I looked the Constitution stipulates the presumption of innocence until proven guily. That makes me a liar ? Smoke another one.

            “Second, you pass judgment on the police and their evidence (or the alleged lack thereof) by concluding that there is nothing more than “Law Enforcement firing hundreds of rounds into a stationary object”

            They fired by their own admission more than two hundred rounds into a stationery object with a wounded unarmend suspect. Get a grip.

            “BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, you will (allegedly) wait to pass judgment, but only AFTER a “show” trial, i.e., a legal proceeding which you have preemptively deemed a sham! So, if the trial court finds him guilty, you will accept that judgment as your own?! You are really going to wait that long to pass judgment and, then, when it finally comes time to formulate your own opinion, you are going to rely upon the findings of a bogus trial?”

            41 of the 67 court filings have been sealed by the Feds… What are they hiding ? Ever heard of the saying Justice must not only be done but seen to be done… More secrecy. If there is one trial in recent memory that should be out in the public it’s this one.

            Uptick downtick doesn’t indicate i’m right just that you are in the minority. Anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a conspiracy theorist ? Get back on your meds Spanky.

            Here is a study just released by Scientists from Kent University in the UK. How does it feel to be a government dupe ?

            http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/12/313399/conspiracy-theorists-vs-govt-dupes/

          • MichaelBRLA

            Really? When was the last time you looked at the Constitution? If you have, in fact, looked at it, did you actually READ it? You might want to think twice before you lie again by saying that you’ve actually read it because, if you had read it, you would know that it says NOTHING about a presumption of innocence! Please prove me wrong! Please cite the article and/or section of the Constitution upon which you rely! Then again, don’t bother … I already know it’s not in there! So, what are you smokin’, Jack?!

            People like you need to get educated before throwing around big boy words like Constitution and stipulates. Otherwise, your sad attempts to sound smarter than you really are will continue to fail.

            As for the number of rounds shot, I say, “HELL YEA!” I’ll take 200+ rounds fired “into a stationery object with a wounded unarmend suspect” over the possibility — no matter how slight — that another innocent life is harmed every time, ESPECIALLY when the “suspect” is a known terrorist, running from the law after killing and maiming hundreds of innocent people. And don’t give me that “but he was unarmed” crap. AT THE TIME of the incident, nobody knew that for sure, and when you don’t know, you MUST ALWAYS ASSUME a suspect is armed, lest you risk losing your own life. By the way, if this poor, unarmed, wounded, glamour boy was so innocent, why did he run? Why did he hide? Why did he tell the guy he carjacked that he did it? Why did he toss bombs out of the car when police chased him? Why did he leave his brother dead or dying?

            If people like you would just stop and think for a minute, you might realize how silly you sound. Look, I’m not saying that everything the government and the media puts out there is true or that they aren’t hiding something, but their version of the events are much MUCH closer to the truth than any of the conspiracy theories out there (most of which are so riddled with holes that … well, they’d sink faster than that boat with 200+ rounds in it)!

            Do you really not understand why so many of the court filings have been sealed? Perhaps its because, if they weren’t, anyone in the world could read them, including other terrorists. Full transparancy is NOT always a good thing, especially when it comes to issues of terrorism and national security. The last thing we need is for our enemies to get their hands on more of our intel. So, contrary to your opinion, I think this is just one of MANY trials that should NOT be out in the public.

            And why are you so obsessed with the upticks and downticks?! Do you really think they are an accurate indication of whether everyone shares your opinion, or that I am in the minority?! If so, you live in a very skewed reality. Indeed, you and I obviously disagree on many levels, but that doesn’t mean I think everyone who disagrees with me is also a conspiracy theorist. That’s not it at all. You’re a conspiracy theorist because you disagree with the overwhelming majority of people, and, in forming and expressing your opinions, you SUBSTITUTE FACTS AND LOGIC with lies and false assumptions, you reference and rely upon non-existent Constitutional provisions, you make wild allegations that the billions of dollars spent defending against terror is a complete waste of money, you describe hundreds of law enforement personnel as pathetic morons and imbeciles who don’t do real police work, you refer to terrorist bomber as a wounded unarmed 19 year old suspect (as if he were a helpless kitten), you’ve already concluded that his trial is a sham when it hasn’t even been scheduled yet, you think upticks and downclicks are telling you something, you use overbroad terms like “the Feds” and claim they are hiding something and that they are shrouded in secrecy, and you call someone who doesn’t agree with you a government dupe! Yes, these are all tell-tale signs of a conspiracy theorist.
            P.S. I place no stock in your scientists from Kent University in the UK, although I did enjoy reading the peice. I literally laughed out loud! It comes as no surprise that you cite ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORIST to lend support to your position. Hell, the author of that article (Dr. Kevin Barrett) is nuttier than you! (For anyone reading this, the following is a cut-and-paste of the Dr. Barrett’s actual bio. I especially like the name of his website (at the end): “Dr. Kevin Barrett, a Ph.D. Arabist-Islamologist, is one of America’s best-known critics of the War on Terror. Dr. Barrett has appeared many times on Fox, CNN, PBS and other broadcast outlets, and has inspired feature stories and op-eds in the New York Times, the Christian Science Monitor, the Chicago Tribune, and other leading publications. Dr. Barrett has taught at colleges and universities in San Francisco, Paris, and Wisconsin, where he ran for Congress in 2008. He is the co-founder of the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance, and author of the books Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie (2007) and Questioning the War on Terror: A Primer for Obama Voters (2009). His website is http://www.truthjihad.com.”

          • simonsezme

            The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 11, states: “Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.”.

            Although the Constitution of the United States does not cite it explicitly, presumption of innocence is widely held to follow from the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments. See also Coffin v. United States and In re Winship.

            You clearly need help. Whether it be conselling or medication please seek attention at your earliest opportunity. .

            “you SUBSTITUTE FACTS AND LOGIC with lies and false assumptions, you reference and rely upon non-existent Constitutional provisions, you make wild allegations that the billions of dollars spent defending against terror is a complete waste of money”
            Good thing that guy decided to have a cigarette or he would still be lying in that boat. Even in a lockdown they couldn’t find water if they fell out of a boat. Get in the game Spanky

          • MichaelBRLA

            I’m well aware of how the presumption of innocence came to be, but that is not the issue. You said “Last time I looked the Constitution stipulates the presumption of innocence until proven guily,” which is CLEARLY wrong. Hey, anyone with a computer can research the internet and find out about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Coffin v. United States, In re Winship and a whole host of other sources, but that doesn’t change the fact that you spouted off about something you didn’t know about. Had you known better, you would have said something like, “Last time I looked, the Supreme Court has mandated a presumption of innocence until proven guily.” Again, that’s not what you said. Nice try, Sanchez.

            And you don’t know a thing about law enforcement. Otherwise, you would be singing their praises for catching this guy as quickly as they did. The fact that he was hiding in a boat has nothing to do with whether they would have ultimatly found him. Sure it was a bit of luck, but you act like law enforcement had their heads in the sand the entire time, which is so far from the truth it hardly deserves a response. Suffice it to say that, within 2 or 3 days of the bombing, they located the brothers and, even though they ran, it only took another day or two to catch them. You tell me any other high profile terrorist or other criminal that was apprehended so quickly after his/her crime. I’d bet you can’t name 3 if you can name one at all!

            You are obviously disconnected from reality. I’d tell you to get some help, but you’re beyond gone, past the point of no return, over the cuckoo’s nest. Anyway, I’m not going to waste anymore of my time with you, Scabby. Feel free to have the last word …

          • simonsezme

            You are Government and Law Enforcement wet dream. Your allegiance to the party will be rewarded comrade. Your celebration of State Violence is pathetic

          • Disavowed 1

            Here’s why it won’t ammount to anything, just like the DHS employee named Major Nidal Malik Hasan.

            Thinking Anew – Security priorities for the next Administration.

            Check page 29 of that pdf. And tell me who’s listed as a “participant” of ” Think and do”.

            Lol! You guy’s fell for the radicalized Muslim trick again.
            When are you going to learn? When the US government starts giving Al Q contracts? Oh snap! That just. Happened too!

          • simonsezme

            touche

        • steves_59

          I’d call them bad shots. I’d probably also buy them a beer once the terrorist was in handcuffs and on his way to jail.

        • steve

          bad shots!

          • Bruce_Leet

            lol

      • Disavowed 1

        Why? He exposed exactly who the Boston Bomber was!!!!! Why remove it! Why!
        Plain as day you see who had the detonator and who caught it so she wouldn’t get caught with it.
        I’m going to repost it here and effing everywhere!!! Your aaccomplices to a frime if you dont send that in to authorities! !!
        He didn’t break your rules. You don’t like the video.

    • Mollyheart

      STFU. You are a ridiculous waste of oxygen. I guess even stupid pieces of crap have freedom of speech in this country. But, you, creep, are not worth listening or reading to. Asshole!

      • simonsezme

        I don’t live in your Country. With big money feeding the “terror” business and believe me its a business and business is a boomin results are coming under scrutiny and they aren’t holding up very well in my opinion. I watched the Boston Police Commissioner on CNN at the time and Wolf Blitzer asked him who was doing all the shooting and he said it was his “understanding” it was back and forth. What a buffoon. Thats what you taxpayers are paying for. Billions and Billions wasted every year on this Para Military Police State that can’t find its way home at night

        • Peter M

          You don’t live in USA and you spend most of your day making comments on this forum that are nothing but vitriol against policies and procedures, at the same time you love Americans and their innovation. you must be either unemployed or you seriously neglect your job and spend most of your days posting comments on forums. I wonder if your employer knows about this? You spout facts that you make up, and then leave others to try to clarify them. You sir are a rabble rouser and nothing but an asswipe. Comments in forums are to promote valid discussion not what you are doing. Get a life and get out of here before some ticked off person finds out who and were you live and make an example out of you.

          • simonsezme

            It’s unclear why you would personalize this but it is a little bit creepy. My employment status is something you think about ? I’m flattered. Perhaps you would be kind enough to provide some facts that I have spouted and then left others to clarify ? Also, are you advocating violence because you disagree with my position on certain matters ? Sounds like someone needs to get a life alright. Why are you so angry ? Why do you take my criticism of Government Agencies so personally ? Must I first submit any drafts from comment sections to you for approval prior to publishing from now on ?

          • simonsezme

            Unclear why you would personalize this but it is kind of creepy. You actually think about my employment status ? I’m flattered. Also, are you advocating violence because I don’t share the same position as you ? Please kindly provide some facts that I have “made up” when you have a moment. What am I doing that is offending you to the point of getting personal ? You might want to print out some of your comments for your next doctors visit so he or she can prescribe the right medication and dosage

      • james_from_cambridge

        You ‘guess’ people you disagree with have freedom of speech? You should know they do, idiot! Jingoistic assholes like you are what’s going to ruin this country, not those smart enough to question things. If our Republic can’t withstand differences of opinion without one side overreacting and trying to take the other sides rights away, we’re done as a country and as a way of life!

        Also, although I’m sure you know it deep down inside, you’re a fucking moron! Just an opinion…don’t have me arrested.

        • Mollyheart

          HAHAHAHAHAHA !!! Your slip is showing, James. I said that I guess even creeps like you have freedom of speech. Which means everyone has freedom of speech in this country. So, if this is how you use it… then good for you. Arrest you??? No. Have you repeat 7th grade… yes! LOL… a dumb shit, is a dumb shit!

    • Anjali

      I don’t understand how on one end we have the NSA, listening to everyone’s calls, and then we let major incident happen. I’m sorry, while I’m proud of our police officers, I still feel that this incident showed incompetence and the ineffective methods we have in place for our security. And yes, we can’t overstate the fact that the terrorist was UNARMED in the boat…yet there was a “shoot-out.” We practically killed him when we needed answers…another huge mistake. Just look at that picture of him getting out of the boat, he was barely holding on. And despite martial law on Boston…he still slipped through the cracks and we failed to find him. Had it not been for the Asian guy’s car getting highjacked (with the Muslim gas station owner calling the police) and the owner of the boat stepping outside for a cigarette, these guys would have gotten away. That’s scary. What’s worse is the way we tried to get him after…HUGE waste of funds. WHY do our state troops need such arms, it’s completely unnecessary. Unquestioned celebrating of the authorities while painting this kid as some sort of monster highlights our society’s disdain for complexity and analysis. We will never be a safer country if we don’t seriously study what’s going on and continue to blindly listen to what is told to us by the authority. This incident highlighted the actions of ordinary Americans (who were Asian, Muslim, and white) while showing the incompetence of our government. Showing pictures of a bloody, unarmed 19 year old mass murderer isn’t going to change that fact.

      • Briannabelle19

        Again, you do not know what went on behind the scenes. They knew he was hurt and didn’t go far. They lifted the lockdown on purpose and guess what? Little jackass dickbag got caught!! He was texting his stupid friends. Did you know that? Probably not.

        • Anjali

          I actually did know that he was texting his stupid friends, who later got caught getting rid of evidence and lying to the FBI. Did you know that he was texting his friends waaaay before Boston was put under martial law. And after they lifted the lockdown it wasn’t the police who found the little jackass…it was an ordinary citizen. I’m saying that had it not been for that citizen, the kid (who was already bleeding from earlier wounds) would have bled to death and we never would have gotten him. And when we finally did get to the boat and engaged in a “shoot out” in which the alleged terrorist had no gun, we very well could have finished him off. I’m saying we HAVE to be critical with how those in power handled the situation, both before the bombings and after. There are so many mistakes! Btw, one of his “stupid friends” is an American citizen, a 19 year old, who was interrogated without a lawyer. He didn’t get rid of the evidence himself, but lied about what he knew. That could have been any American 19 year old friend of his at the wrong place at the wrong time, getting interrogated without a lawyer. Read the Rolling Stone article to hear how some of his friends were treated by the Feds.

          • Briannabelle19

            Still stupid friends…I don’t care who they were. They covered for him. You know if you are throwing his shit in the dump/dumpster something isn’t right. Come on.

          • Anjali

            I agree, that was more than stupid!! He had 2 foreign friends who did if for him, and the third was an American friend way back from high school. If you carefully read the three affidavits from the FBI, you can understand the American kid’s mistake and the injustice he went through being interrogated without a lawyer and without council. I recommend reading the affidavits.

      • Actualreader

        So you would have police respond to a terrorist and attempt to capture him with… what? A slingshot? I know! We can arm our police with spit balls! That way, those little terrorists can be sure not to be harmed. We wouldn’t want them to scrape their little knees as they flee through a densely populated area throwing bombs…. Earlier that day, those terrorists were slinging bombs at police and had already killed one officer and severly injured another. Police acted in the manner they are trained. No ONE else- no member of the public-was harmed and the terrorist was caught and taken alive. They did their jobs, and until you train alongside them and attempt to capture a terrorist, you really do not have the knowledge to say whether they did it the right way or not.

        • brian_x

          Agreed. I’m no fan of militarized police forces (hammer and nail syndrome, you know) but their training got the job done in this case. I have a hard time imagining how the whole thing could have gone any differently and still had no more people killed.

    • Serge Isaac Barou

      The kid? The one who just murdered a real kid – 8 years old boy, and teared off his even younger sister’s leg?
      You’re disgusting terrorist’s arse licker.

      • simonsezme

        How does my criticism of Law Enforcement suggest a lack of empathy for the victims ? Because I call the Police yahoos for breaking the law I am a Terrorist arse licker ? Under what other circumstances is it justifiable for Law Enforcement to murder unarmed suspects ? Oh wait… they murdered the other guy Todashev a few weeks later and he was unarmed too. Nevermind

    • Briannabelle19

      You do not know ANYTHING that happened that day. He WAS NOT unarmed. He shot back. And the police shot blanks. They did what they had to do and did it pretty god damn well at that. SO before you come on and run your mouth to something you CLEARLY know NOTHING about…get your facts straight.

      • simonsezme

        Did you see the boat when they were finished unloading on it ? It was unrecognizable. I’m not a gun owner but it would stand to reason blanks don’t put holes in boats

        • Briannabelle19

          I know for fact as being part of WPD. You have no idea what the f*ck went down. I saw ALL of it.

          • Due Process Rights

            Ya? WHAT exactly did you see because I’m calling bullshit! When did he shoot back…. before or after he slit his own throat?! You fucking joke!

        • Becky Alexander

          are you aware that they opened up the boat cover with a remote controlled robotic device to expose him and that was why the cover was destroyed?

          • simonsezme

            Well aware. I’m talking about the swiss cheese look of the actual boat after being riddled with bullets.

      • Anjali

        The initial reports all said he was shooting back…but that was proven to be false. That is the problem with the media, it constantly gives “breaking news” without checking the facts. Then it’s embarrassed to definitively correct itself. He was unarmed.

      • misha2009

        The cops and FBI already admitted Dzhokhar was unarmed in the boat. Why would the cops shoot blanks? Illogical. Briannabelle, if you’re not 18, you shouldn’t be commenting here – and you know you’re not (we know too).

  • sanfordandsons

    He would look a lot more cute with a red hole in his forehead.

  • dontblamemeforthis

    These pics are not gory at all IMO. Would rather see pics of his dead brother after he was run over ( on here – NOT on Rolling Stone) if the intent is to deter.

  • james_from_cambridge

    Did this sargent think these pics would counter the Rolling Stone cover? Is he that deluded? These pics make him out to be even more vulnerable and wounded (literally)…it’s just gonna make those lunatic fan girls feel even sorrier for him. He looks like an injured fucking deer for God’s sake! Stupid, stupid, stupid…

    • misha2009

      Yes James. Hide the truth. When a paramilitary group called the police roll down the streets of suburbia in tanks shooting up houses and an unarmed teenager, don’t leak the photos. Is that what we have come to?

      • Bruce_Leet

        LOL how would they know he’s unarmed when he was alleged to have fired rounds at police with his brother at another location? (the location with the Honda or whatever)

        the tarp and opaque body of the boat would prevent them from knowing he’s unarmed wouldn’t it?

  • qwerty

    check of the evidence first, that actually lacks, and then draw conclusions.dont get influenced by the media

    • MichaelBRLA

      Oh, okay, don’t get influenced by the media? Where, then, pray tell, are you getting YOUR evidence?

  • Joe Gordon

    “Not someone fluffed and buffed for the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.”

    Christ, This tard is a cop. So he implies that RS photoshopped the picture on the cover. Then how the fuck do you explain the fact that the EXACT SAME PHOTO was on the cover of the NYTimes? RS didn’t do DICK to the photograph, but of course we must all BE SHAKING WITH RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUCK.

    THAT.

  • Steve1604

    Let’s just hope the us picked a good patsy this time… Innocent until proven guilty is how justice works last time I checked

  • Joy Jones

    oh yeah that boy looks so dangerous huh!??? Lifting his shirt to show he is unarmed and laying down injured on the boat?? Sick people that wanted him dead!

  • Joy Jones

    This looks so dangerous huh!? A boy lifting up his shirt to show he is unarmed and slumped over, injured on the boat! The only dangerous thing I see is that laser pointed at his head!! Sick people wanted him dead!

  • Radius757

    The government and media are getting closer and closer to the “three-minute hate” of the novel 1984. There, citizens were required to gather together and express their hatred for the enemies of the day, as defined by Big Brother. Today we will hate North Korea, Cuba, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. At least it is still optional in our time.

    • Bruce_Leet

      Cuba is fine and normal, but do you know what takes place in the prison camps of North Korea? so many prisoners there eat rats as their main food, to such an extent that the local rat population is almost extinct! rat consumption rate has to be very high to outrace the rat breeding rate!

      and what is wrong with hating Dzhokhar who helped to explode an eight-year old boy watching a race with his family? that’s actually a minimal description of his crimes, which are much more lengthy than that.

      • simonsezme

        As twisted as it is it appears Dzhokhar thought he would draw attention to the fact that the US Government murders eight year old boys by way of Wars built on lies and flying robots every day in mostly Muslim Countries. Not a very pleasant way of drawing attention but it didn’t work for him or his brother if they really were the perpetrators anyway. Most Americans don’t seem to think other innocent childrens lives are as valuable. It’s a shame really. The old violence begets violence adage seems more than apt here. What happened in Boston that day would be considered a slow day in many other countries thanks to the good ole USA.

        • Bruce_Leet

          ya how would that draw attention to the flying robots?

          they didn’t leave behind any notes or signs or manifestos to explain why they did what they did… the bombs went off and for a while, many hours in fact, nobody knew who could have done it or why… so how does the bombing point to Reaper drones?

          • simonsezme

            By what he allegedly wrote on the inside of the boat. That they did it as a way to strike back at America for all the murders in other Countries at the hand of the US Government. No one really likes to deal with this question. Its easier to be outraged at a magazine for using the wrong pic even though most of the people here feigning outrage haven’t read the article itself. Very typical

        • brian_x

          Strictly speaking, the drones are not flying robots. They’re remote-controlled. There is a significant difference.

          • simonsezme

            I stand corrected.

    • Don Allen

      Great comment! I agree that much of our commentary for articles has become an analog to the gesticulating verbal release made famous by Orwell. It is important to remember, however, that this was mostly done for the purpose of the party, so that one could show allegiance. Over time… participation breeds the illusion of conformance, but also leads to true conformance as we become desensitized.

      Rolling Stone is free to print anything they want. Too many people have committed their last measure of resolve to make that possible. In a free market, we simply don’t purchase it. I personally will let it rot on the shelves. We vote with our money, that is true capitalism.

      BTW, not to be glib but it’s the “two minutes hate”…

  • Joy Jones

    This looks so dangerous huh!? A boy lifting up his shirt to show he is
    unarmed and slumped over, injured on the boat! The only dangerous thing I
    see is that laser pointed at his head!! They wanted him dead

    • http://zautos.com/ Paul Erna

      Then why is he not dead

    • MichaelBRLA

      Did you not see the “boy” on whose head the laser was pointed?! If you did see that “boy,” then you most certainly saw something dangerous. That “boy” is a killer. Killers are dangerous. Ergo, that “boy” is dangerous!

      • Jason

        The picture on Rolling Stone does not show how he failed expectations it does the exact opposite.
        Now the new pics on Boston magazine show exactly how he failed
        Expectations and that’s the pics that everyone should see not the glamorized version

        • MichaelBRLA

          I agree that everyone should see the Boston magazine pics (and not the glamorized Rolling Stone pics)

    • JP

      Better at HIS head than a pressure cooker full of shrapnel coming at yours or your children! Dead men tell no tales, for sure, but in the end, no matter his story or explanation, the media as well as the public will decide what they want to believe anyway. Facts, or no facts! You can damned well believe that if I had been there, knowing the UNKNOWN danger that may be lurking, I would have had a red dot on his forehead as well!

    • Chris

      Shame on you. Yes he was dangerous, he killed 3 people, injured dozens others, some of whom will never walk again, and fractured the well-being of a major city and the entire country. I personally would have had a hard time not putting a bullet through that red dot.

    • ugh

      We all want him dead sweety. As well as anyone who supports him. You can’t cuddle a terrorist.

  • Adrienne

    What I see is a wounded kid…

    • Peyton

      I see a wounded terrorist.

      • dominika

        you mean SUSPECT

        • Peyton

          No I don’t. I mean terrorist.

          • MichaelBRLA

            Yes! That was a PERFECT response!

          • Due Process Rights

            Yes, because this picture proves what? Doesn’t look like a guy putting something down! Can you even prove was even aware of the bags existence using this pic?! NO!

          • MeniscusDiscus

            Go look for some aliens to defend. I mean the kind from outer space.

    • Anjali

      I see a wounded, unarmed terrorist who supposedly engaged in a “shoot out” with some 200+ officials. The sad thing is that this should have sparked a debate, but everyone rallied around killing the terrorist right away and mindlessly celebrating that we kinda forgot the huge mistakes that were made along the way. Not the mention the FBI going around and killing people while “internally investigating” i.e. exonerating the agents who killed people on dubious groups. That other Chechen dude, FBI arresting his 19 year old American friend who was interrogated without a lawyer present…our rights are getting trampled on and we just look at his blood pictures and celebrate. BTW, how is this a response to Rolling Stone??

      • MeniscusDiscus

        Right on! Quite righteous. FBI murdered the dude and the public – everyone writing on this included – is left without knowing the real facts behind the whole group of those who were with the Boston Bombers. How dumb is our FBI/GOVT?

    • sleekgazelle

      I see a child killer facing justice.

  • Joe Ferro

    God Bless You Sean… Don’t take any S–t from Rollingstone !!! Screw them !!! That “RED DOT” should have made … REAL-RED ” !!!!

  • Joe Ferro

    Should have just taken him out when yah had the chance. Die and learn.

  • Joe Ferro

    See … “Whitey’s” back !!!

  • Jack Gillis

    “…then you’re rightly concerned about something that has nothing to do with Rolling Stone.”
    @Aaron: Context matters, my friend. And this has everything to do with Rolling Stone.

    • Aaron K Kraus

      I assume you’re going to publish this master list of news magazines that you approve of.

  • Jeff Baker

    How is this any different?
    The cover and the article meant to point out that he was a normal kid and then he changed into something horrible. They highlighted some of the changes and possible reasons for those changes.
    All of this information seems very useful to me. Maybe someone will be able to stop these changes before they hurt someone.

  • http://twitter.com/GailC14 Gail Calhoun

    This gestapo styled hunt and over kill is excused frequently in saying something about incompetence, but that is too narrow of a view for this scenario. Added to the event as a whole making it even worse is the mind numbing show of Heads of committees and Government figures looking to further fund the insane apparatus responsible.

  • Joshua Walker

    I am very grateful these photos are being made public. I never post comments or participate in online discussions because everyone has their opinion, but this is a black and white, right and wrong issue for me. I can only hope rolling stone feels a sharp economic backlash for this stupidity. The real face of terror is a cowards face.

  • Due Process Rights

    Sgt. Murphy has apparently forgotten all about the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE! I’m thinking a civil lawsuit will jog his memory!

    • srock

      As far as the law goes, yes he is presumed until proven guilty. But that doesn’t mean any living organism with more than two neurons firing properly can’t figure out for themselves that this puke is guilty as hell! Good point though

    • Bruce_Leet

      a civil lawsuit filed by whom??

  • disqus_AkAsSvvc8Z

    Personally I take pride in how the police handled themselves. There are at least 3 innocent dead people and hundreds of hurt and permanently disabled. All they were doing was watching the finish of a marathon. This “young boy” was part of the destruction and ultimate harm of all these innocent people. He was unarmed? How did the police know that? He was hiding under a boat cover. I would have shot him point blank through the head and high fived the police doing it. I’m tired of having these terrorist in a jail and feeding them with my tax dollars. If we started killing or putting to death these people they would have less people trying these acts of terror. I personally don’t care why he turned into a terrorist. All I know is he’s alive and the innocent people aren’t. America….take a stand and put him to death. He’s not really going to get what we think is a fair trial anyway. Let’s just save the money of the trial and feed some unemployed person who can’t find a job in this wonderful economy.

  • I’m Just Sayin’

    Surely if the aim was to counter the Rolling Stone front cover, then releasing actual evidence of Dzhokhar placing his bag down, stepping away from it, standing around watching the carnage unfold from the first blast, then calmly walking away amid the panic, detonating his IED and an explosion occuring in the spot where he left his bag would be much more successful than showing what is essentially images of an unarmed, bloody teenager surrendering to scores of police pointing lasers at his head, poised to execute, after already having sustained multiple gunshot wounds? If they want to show the real face of terror, show the conclusive evidence, and whilst they’re at it, explain why the indictment says the IEDs were concealed in black bags, yet Dzhokhar’s is clearly a light grey? The FBI said they wouldn’t be releasing the footage as it may cause people to overreact if they came into contact with the bombing suspects, but Tamerlan has been dead and Dzhokhar has been detained for 90 days, so that reason has been redundant for some time. Now they’re claiming it’s being saved for trial. All these pictures do is incite sympathy, and provide pleasure for people who claim to detest violence yet rejoice in seeing violence done to somebody who is still a suspect and has not yet been proven guilty in a court of law.

  • Robert Karma

    Emotions are clouding the cognitive ability of Sgt. Murphy and those who are in a rage about the RS cover. Have you read the well-written, well-researched, thoughtful examination of this kid turned terrorist inside Rolling Stone? The irony is if you are one of those making ignorant, prejudicial objections to the photo on the cover without reading the story and knowing that the photo was from this kid’s social media profile then you are a part of the problem. The point of the story is that we should be concerned about the our disaffected, troubled youth who feel isolated in their communities. The photo on the cover isn’t that of an obvious jihadist but that of the kid next door. This kid isn’t being glorified but rather critically examined (like a doctor examines cancer) to help us understand the issue and help prevent future terrorist attacks. Knowledge, not fearful ignorance, is the way we make progress against these type of events. So take a deep breath, move past the initial anger, act like a grown up and become an informed citizen which is our responsibility in a Constitutional Republic.

    • Adam Steiger

      Here is where my position differs.

      While you give a positive testimony for the content of the article, the cover photo is capable of suggesting things, otherwise, on an emotional level.

      My position here being, the cover photo and the editorial content (by your testimony) are not congruent with each other. One is suggesting something on an emotional level (cover) while the other (presumably) showcases solid journalism.

      • Jackson Raushenberg

        adam I agree, the cover was not appropriate for several reasons while the story itself is one that should be told, those who say why weren’t the first responders or victims on the cover, well, simply that’s not the story this person is writing, however, the historical context in which RS uses its cover images, outside of charles mans, are 99% of music artists and are stylized shots, this just was not the appropriate placement and use of the image.

        • Adam Steiger

          That is a valid point. Perhaps, Rolling Stone is conditioned towards a “stylized” type of photography.

    • dqdqwdqw

      The article is honestly worse than the cover. It spends the whole time glorifying the terrorist talking about how nice they were and talking to all their friends about them. Not a word is said about the choice they made to become terrorists and kill innocent people. But they have done it and there is no going back, whatever ridiculous motives they had for the attack is irrelevant.

      • simonsezme

        “whatever ridiculous motives they had for the attack is irrelevant.” Really ? Motive is always relevant in any criminal case. Too bad we won’t have an opportunity to see or read any of the testimony. It will be completely cloaked in secrecy. I wonder what the “story” will be for that decision ? One more giant leap for Dystopia….

    • Bruce_Leet

      I agree with you that its a good idea to try to determine what set these two off, but I’m not sure I understand the connection between isolation and murder…

      I’m skeptical that they were isolated to begin with. Tamerlan had boxing partners and other community contacts no? and Dzhokar had numerous friends at the university? or are you saying that one may feel isolated even if one has numerous contacts?

      even with such an explanation I’d still be left puzzled by why they would desire dozens of strangers watching a foot race to have their bodies shredded by nails and metal balls. clearly I do not understand the effects of isolation.

    • Bruce_Leet

      in high school I sometimes spent an extra 30 to 60 minutes in the classroom doing homework after school let out, often totally alone and isolated… and in college I sometimes was in the library until 11pm doing homework, not seeing anybody for hours… in neither case did I feel one ounce of ill will or hatred towards anyone… rather the opposite, the environment was tranquil and pleasant… isolation had no ill effects on me… does that mean my psychology differs from the Tsarnaev’s or the norm in some way, or you are speaking of a radically different species of isolation?

  • http://brianstroup.com/ Brian Stroup

    Children see the world in the context of monsters vs. heroes and can’t wrap their heads around the harsh realities of the world we live in. It’s sad that so many adults choose to regress into similar childish modes of thought when they are scared. Grow up.

    • Anjali

      Our society runs away from any complexity and analysis. Sad fact.

      • Dan Flathers

        I’ll agree with you the moment you condemn the likes of Al Sharpton.

        • Anjali

          Does Al Sharpton profit from racism…yeah probably. It might surprise you to know I’m not exactly a liberal.

    • Dan Flathers

      You and Anjali are hopelessly full of yourselves.

      • FunkTron

        Stroup is dead on the money. People aren’t “good” and people aren’t “evil”. They do good things and bad things. And that’s really it. His analogy is spot on, because children default to either/or fallacy quite often.

  • steves_59

    Unbelievable how many cretinous comments there are on here in support of this terrorist. This “kid” blew up a bunch of people, killed a handful, ran over his brother in his haste to escape, shot and killed a police officer, and cowered in the bilge of a boat.
    I don’t have a lick of sympathy for this crap stain.

    • dqdqwdqw

      Thank you, finally some sense

    • Anjali

      Its not sympathy for the alleged terrorist. Its criticism of the handling of the situation. As tax payers, we are entitled to such criticism.

      • Harley Alderson

        bull thats all i have to say you support terrorism please leave this country immediately

        • Anjali

          I DO NOT SUPPORT TERRORISM!! I’m actually very concerned about our security, that’s why I am critical of the handling of the situation! I’m afraid that if it weren’t for the Asian man or the boat owner, he would have gotten away! Please read.

          • Bruce_Leet

            where would he have gotten away to? at the time they caught him in the boat he had lost so much blood he was on the verge of unconsciousness… his face was plastered on all the news, so where would he have gotten first aid from?

            had the boat owner not discovered him, and he had stayed in the boat, I think he would have died in the boat from blood loss.

            had he left the boat he could not have gotten far… the most he could have done was stolen another car… only to pass unconscious while driving and die? I doubt very very much that anybody would have given him first aid if he went knocking on doors asking for help… only somebody who had missed the nightly news would have let him in their house… or somebody who supported the bombing… wandering around on the streets he would have been discovered by the police, and had he been discovered by an armed citizen his chances of being shot were quite high.

            I think the only way he could have gotten away would be if he could have fashioned his clothing into some kind of bandage to stop the bleeding?

            or did the majority of the blood loss come from the numerous shots fired at the boat? if that’s the case then your scenario of a potential escape makes more sense :) I had the impression the blood loss came from the prior encounter with the police where his brother died, not from the dozens of shots fired at the boat… but maybe my impression is wrong. :) although the boat owner did say he saw blood when he lifted the tarp… so there must have been some wounds sustained prior to slinking into the boat

      • dqdqwdqw

        what could you possibly critize about the handling of the situation? They caught one and the other died, I’d say thats pretty successful

        • Jackson Raushenberg

          I’m sorry Am I on The Taliban comment section, wtf are you people talking about?

  • Steven Tryon

    Beautiful images. What struck me is that, instead of shooting Tsarnaev on the spot, which is what would have happened in many regimes, the police EMT tended to him like the human being he is and got him into an ambulance and to the hospital. I am reminded of CS Lewis’ words, “You have never met a ‘mere human being’.” We have enormous capacity for good — and for evil. What make evil so powerful and reprehensible is the heights from which evil humans have fallen.

    Blessings. Keep up the good work.
    Steve

    • Anjali

      After we practically killed him in a “shoot out” in which he was unarmed. We probably should stick to comparing ourselves to other Western and developed countries. I’m scared if we find solace in the fact that we are better than some other “regimes,” especially given the fact that we are a democracy.

      • Dan Flathers

        You don’t believe Al Sharpton too, do you?

        • Jackson Raushenberg

          Dan I like Al Sharpton, he gets a bad rap from Tiwanna brawly 30 years ago, he has an agenda so he has to stir it up you know? Sometimes he’s a bit goofy… I am what you call a liberal Dan, and I have no clue what these people are talking about, I am against the RS cover, and have ZERO sympathy for this piece of trash. He is LUCKY we have laws and his head wasn’t shot clean off…

      • Steven Tryon

        Unarmed? At the moment, perhaps, but given the number of people he had already killed and tried to kill, any police officer or private citizen who did not assume he was armed and lethal would have been a fool.

  • Michelle Harvey Perez

    these pictures just show the horror that this teenager is going through. can you imagine being shot and chased through the darkness of night, your brother being killed, only to find a short hiding place and then coming out unarmed and being shot again and your throat slit? he is innocent until proven guilty. I am a mother of two teenage sons and my heart breaks by seeing this. My heart goes out to the victims and family of the bombing, but we need to be looking for all the answers and not putting it all on this kid. his dna wasn’t even on the bombs and his backpack was not the one that exploded at the marathon.. and why were there warnings of an “explosion bomb drill” across from the library which happens to be the finish line? what really happened, and what about the boston cop arrested and the the 27 year old dan morely? everyone is still in danger until the true people involved are found.

    • Dan Flathers

      Unbelievable….Literally.

      • Jackson Raushenberg

        am in bizarro land today? WTF are you people talking about?!

    • BeccaLeigh

      First, his throat wasn’t slit and he wasn’t shot after coming out of the boat and second, SpeedBump (his bro) would still be alive if he hadn’t run over him with the car!! People are painfully stupid on this thread

      • simonsezme

        Lot of holes in the Feds story… No surprise the trial will be cloaked in secrecy. They sure have you fooled

        • Dan Flathers

          So glad for you that you think that you are not fooled…

          • simonsezme

            I don’t have any theories or answers. It is a shame his trial will be cloaked in complete secrecy. That is a pretty big tell in my mind. I’m not buying what is being sold. I don’t believe a thing they are saying about this. I was glad he lived because I thought we were going to have an opportunity to see what really happened but it appears not to be. What a terrific Justice system.

          • Bruce_Leet

            ya that is strange… I tend to believe the police story because it is corroborated by the SUV owner who was car-jacked… but I am puzzled why the trial will be secret… have they explained why that is?

          • simonsezme

            They havent really said why but 41 of the 67 court filings are sealed. Not good. What are they hiding ?

          • Michelle Harvey Perez

            maybe we all are being fooled, either way only the kid and God knows what truly happened. we can research all we want and I will continue to do so. however I also believe in my heart and trust my instinct that there is much more to it than we know. things do not add up whether you like it or not. he is innocent until proven guilty. personally I do not believe he did it. and like my mother, my instincts are always spot on. I have a right to my opinion just as you do yours. so we will agree to disagree and find out in a couple of months what the justice system has to say or when they find the true bombers which ever comes first

          • Bruce_Leet

            what’s your hunch on how he sustained those wounds to his body prior to entering the boat? like the boat owner said when he lifted the tarp he saw a bloodied person, so that means that Dzhokhar was bleeding prior to entering the boat… because the dozens of bullets shot at the boat came later… that was an outcome of the boat owner who saw a bloodied person calling 911

      • Michelle Harvey Perez

        I received the info that his throat had been cut from the police interview from the horses mouth so if that’s not true then the police that gave the interview were untruthful. and im not against police, my grandfather was a police officer so no disrespect to them whatsoever. I also read the medical information from jahars relatives concerning his injuries he was shot from one side of his jaw and it came out the back of his neck and will have to go through rehab. my sources are not “heresay” so don’t go calling people stupid for stating the facts

      • cessnadriver

        Speedbump. Thank you for that one.

  • sleekgazelle

    With all the media chatter and discussion of this man’s appearance, it is easy to forget that he coldly murdered four people including an eight-year-old boy, injured countless others, and would have continued to keep on killing innocent people with more bombs if he weren’t stopped by the heroic actions of Boston’s finest. These are the pictures that people truly should see. Thank you for posting these photos.

  • http://twitter.com/GailC14 Gail Calhoun

    Plenty of people out there who only eyeball the news, never read. Dzhokhar was the subject of a irresponsible overly funded man hunt and his brother murdered when they never should have become the focus of any law enforcement activity in the first place.They are both innocent people. What keeps this going is the hate mongers cloaked to appear as “good people” They love to hate and doing it makes them feel alive. No evidence deters them, there have been further arrests related to the Boston Bombings and a confession by one of these-the other a police officer no less!! but not a mention of that, or has this received even a review by the good and the righteous. That bloody manhunt is what they want more of–oh yea. They liked that. Some stalk the web routinely-looking for more victims. Every bit in the news-even a reprinting of a dated news article brings them out to spew. They are amazing.

    • Dan Flathers

      Your viewpoint demonstrates that Socrates was right.

    • MichaelBRLA

      WTF are you talking about?! The Tsarneavs are/were both innocent people?! You need to stop reading and start “eyeballing the news” so you can see the photos of these terrorists planting the f’n bombs!!

    • Wakeupandfreejahar

      I agree with you. These boys are innocent, and what happened to them is sickening. Tamerlan murdered in cold blood, Jahar close to death from the armed police who nearly killed him.

    • Jackson Raushenberg

      lol…what?

    • Bruce_Leet

      how do you figure they are innocent?

      if they are innocent, how did the police choose who to arrest? did they pick them at random? what about the car-jacked SUV owner and what were they doing in his SUV? did he also pick them at random? what is the chances that two people would be randomly chosen by both the police and the owner of that SUV they were using to flee? the odds of that would be astronomical would they not? perhaps several billion or trillion to one?

  • Todd Ridolph

    It’s terrifying that we have such an amazingly large police state, those are the photos that are the “Face of Terror” for me. 911 still hasn’t had a real investigation, let alone all the anomalies on this story.

  • Wakeupandfreejahar

    This is absolutely disgusting, horrifying and sickening. Is this how you treat a 19-year-old boy? It’s terrifying! He looks awful, covered in blood, wounded, but why?! Was there any need at all to hurt Jahar? He is unarmed, didn’t even have a weapon, yet they’re still hurting him?! He is innocent. He nearly got killed, for no reason! I’m shocked, and disgusted. What has happened to people these days, who are completely fine with the fact that this INNOCENT boy nearly got murdered? I’m horrified.

    • dqdqwdqw

      There is nothing innocent about him. He deserves so much worse than what he got.

      • Wakeupandfreejahar

        No he definitely does not. It already looks like they nearly killed him, and now they’re keeping him locked in a cell. How much worse can it get? It’s awful!

        • dqdqwdqw

          He should be tortured every day for the rest of his miserable life, even then it would not be enough

          • dqdqwdqw

            That’s what they would do in his country

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            But this is not his country is it? He has his rights, too, and he’s an American citizen like you.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            Wishing torture on someone who’s already been blamed for something they never did and tortured enough already does not make you any better.

          • Jackson Raushenberg

            This dude is a troll, it’s pretty obvious people.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            He’s “guilty.” I’m not a troll anymore now. Ha! You sir are the real troll, accepting the media’s words.

    • Jackson Raushenberg

      Im gonna assume you are being sarcastic here.

      • Wakeupandfreejahar

        I’m definitely not sarcastic. What I say is true. I’m deeply disgusted.

        • dqdqwdqw

          Then go to chechnya and go make friends with his terrorist buddies, and dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            I only believe he’s innocent, I’m sorry, because we have something called “innocent until proven guilty.” Ok, I believe he’s guilty now because you tried to insult me. Provide evidence, not insults.

          • dqdqwdqw

            innocent people dont steal cars and shoot cops

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            Not if they’re trying to surrender, but the cops won’t listen, and continue on their pursuit to murder him.

          • dqdqwdqw

            If they were really on a pursuit to kill him, don’t you think they would have when they found him?

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            Because, everyone is desperate to get information out of this boy and know the reason “why he did it”, so it would have caused anger and irritation among the public to know they could have gotten information, but couldn’t. Besides, people will question their acts, already people are questioning if the lock-down was necessary for an injured 19-year-old unarmed boy.

          • Jackson Raushenberg

            Multiple federal and local agencies have a clear timeline of events, much of which is in the public domain, if you choose to not believe ANY of it then that’s on you, you’re free to do so…

        • Jackson Raushenberg

          I’m not gonna engage you because either you’re just a TROLL trying to provoke and be funny or you’re serious, if you’re serious there is no starting point to discuss this topic. Was there any need to hurt him? Are you high? I mean I guess if don’t believe ANYTHING the local and federal authorities claimed happened then oh well, what can I say… And BTW what you say isn’t true, it’s an opinion, and unlike in most parts of the world, here you are free to have one.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            I am serious. What I say is a fact: If you believe in justice and fairness, you would most likely believe in “innocent until proven guilty.”
            What I have is not an opinion. You also have an opinion that he’s guilty. What evidence do you have? CNN? Fox News? Because they aren’t credible.

        • Kilgore Trout

          You need to grow some balls

    • snook

      Innocent? And how were the officers supposed to know he was unarmed/did not have explosives/other weaponry?

      • Wakeupandfreejahar

        But what was the point of shooting at him? He wasn’t doing anything, just hiding in the boat. He didn’t engage in a fight, he just hid while the officers tried to make him surrender. The guns and weapons were uncalled for.

        • dqdqwdqw

          how do you know all this? were you there?

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            I did my research, got my information from real eyewitnesses, looked through evidence, videos, articles, and formed my theory. I was not actually there, but I live very close to Boston. I assume you must be there, since you seem to know “all this” and seem to be convinced he’s guilty?

        • snook

          Do you suggest they go up to the boat (again without knowing if he is armed or has any dangerous capabilities) and ask him nicely to come out? Wait for him to starve to death?

          I’m sure he was given an opportunity to “come out with your hands up”

          • simonsezme

            I’m sure he was given an opportunity to “come out with your hands up”
            The evidence suggests otherwise

          • snook

            You can’t take a photo of audio. So I don’t know what evidence you’re talking about since there’s no video above.

          • simonsezme

            They told him to come out with his hands up after they fired two hundred rounds into a stationery object with an injured unarmed teenage suspect in it.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            I’m not suggesting any of those. I’m saying the weapons and those awful injuries were uncalled for. Eventually he would surrender, because he would know that he would have to come out anyway, and he was surrounded with guns pointed right at the boat.

        • jules68

          uncalled for??? Did you forget the fact that hours earlier he was in a gunfight with police and throwing pressure cooker bombs? Sounds totally innocent to me.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            Have you seen the video of the brothers dropping their backpacks on the ground, because you seem so sure that they did it. And did you actually see them throwing bombs at the police, or shooting at them? Witness it? I think not. You only read a few words and automatically believed it without question. He is most definitely innocent, also.

          • jules68

            so you’re saying if there isn’t a video of it happening, it didn’t exist??? GREAT LOGIC!! Please don’t ever serve on a jury!!!
            I LIVE JUST OUTSIDE BOSTON. I DID NOT JUST “READ A FEW WORDS,” I WAS LIVING IT AS IT WAS UNFOLDING.

            Why don’t you go ask Jeff Bauman, the young man who had both his legs blown off and was the one who gave eye witness descriptions of what he saw. My next door neighbor is friends with Jeff and is currently working as his PR rep. He is no actor, he is very much real and very much a double amputee as a result of this fool you want to free. You’re the one that needs to wake up.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            I was not saying that it didn’t exist. You are now assuming, and making up things.

            Also, I never said Jeff is fake did I?

            I only think it’s a little strange, that he wasn’t bleeding all over the place, because he had just gotten his legs blown off, and the ground around him is completely dry. It’s also very strange that his hair was completely different during the Marathon, which was curly, but after the marathon, his hair is straight. His hair color also seems to have changed after the marathon, which isn’t ordinary.

            I think you’re letting your emotions fuel your opinion. I suggest you keep away from media propaganda.

          • jules68

            You said “Have you seen the video of the brothers dropping their backpacks on the ground, because you seem so sure that they did it.” There does not need to be video to prove they did it. There were plenty of people locked in their homes in Watertown that DID. There were also people at the bomb site that saw them drop the backbacks, including Jeff. Maybe you should stop reading those conspiracy theory websites.

            I find it completely laughable that you are comparing one’s looks immediately after getting blown up to how he looks in the media. wth is wrong with you.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            But you didn’t think it was very laughable about the part where Jeff wasn’t bleeding all over the place, like he should have, confirmed by doctors, did you?
            But the video is the key to the truth. If there is no video of them dropping the book bags, I’m sure they didn’t do it. If there is, well, I suppose he did it then. But even Gov. Patrick didn’t see the “chilling” video. Says something doesn’t it? If they can release a video of the suspect who injured people in the Oklahoma shooting, why not the video of them dropping the so-called “bombs”?
            And if it’s to let him have a fair trial, you are sourly mistaken, because now, our own news decides if someone’s guilty or innocent. Already people believe he’s guilty.
            What I find laughable is how you believe the news. A radicalized Muslim who hates the US bombed Boston! HA!

    • sleekgazelle

      Take a good long look at those photos. That is the real Jahar. The only thing disgusting, horrifying, and sickening is your deluded fantasy of his innocence.

    • Adam Steiger

      You’ve got to take a step back and realize that this post of yours is entirely laced with emotion; and devoid of any critical thinking.

      Additionally, you made an assumption about the suspect being innocent without having any facts to support that claim.

      • Wakeupandfreejahar

        You made an assumption that he’s guilty without having facts supporting your claim. There are so many holes and lies in this story. One fact, confirmed by authorities and the Boston Globe tweet is that there was a bomb drill going on the same day on the same day as the Boston Marathon. Authorities were also repeatedly telling people that this was only a drill, confirmed by eyewitnesses. I’m also curious: there was a Saudi at the marathon linked to terrorism, and later immediately deported.

        Another fact is there were bomb-sniffing dogs at the marathon, specifically this one, I don’t know why, of all marathons. Why did the FBI ask people at the marathon to delete all their pictures and videos? Also, why would the FBI need assistance in identifying the suspects if they were monitoring them for 3-5 years? The news has also been reportedly caught saying false information, such as Jahar and the armed police locked in a gunbattle, but later they say he was unarmed, had no weapon. Note that in one of the pictures of Dzhokhar walking alongside his brother, the backpack appears to have a cavity, a hollow hole in it, and it looks to be empty. Dzhokhar’s backpack is white, Tamerlan’s gray, clearly not black. I could explain more, I have lots more, but these are a few facts.

    • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

      You’re okay with him murdering innocent men, women and children though?

      Sick twit.

      • Wakeupandfreejahar

        I’m not okay with murdering innocent people, but I’m not okay with framing someone either, and nearly murdering them, thank you very much.

        • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

          You’re right. They probably got the wrong guy.

          Or you could really be as delusional as your comments make you out to be, and the guy really is a cold blooded, murdering coward.

          That would be my thought.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            I’m sure you’re wrong. He doesn’t seem like the type of person to hurt people, and he has no reason, nothing to gain, from doing it. Although I do applaud the article for actually speaking parts of the truth, that Jahar really is an intelligent, caring, genuinely good person, it doesn’t say that he’s innocent,or state that. He doesn’t even seem like a radicalized Muslim, either, and he didn’t really seem to care about Islam. His brother may have been much more of a Muslim, but I’m positive Tamerlan is a patsy too.

            That would be my thought.

          • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

            What I’m sure of it that if you don’t get help you are going to end up in a place that you don’t like very much.

            Free yourself.

          • Wakeupandfreejahar

            I’m sure I’m fine, thank you.
            I’m just stating my ideas and facts.
            Apparently that’s wrong, and everyone should have only one idea in their brain, and no one should have another suggestion.

  • Louise Lord

    I am sure the following will be misconstrued by most who read it but here goes: First and foremost, we live in the U.S. therefore freedom of the press is granted to us…no ands, ifs or buts. Secondly, what happened in the great city of Boston is tragic/horrific and mystifying but to me this story goes much deeper than any photos could ever reveal. I believe that Dzhokhar probably was a decent kid(yes, a kid…19 does not necessarily make one an adult with the wisdom of years of life experience) who was caught in a web spun by the very family that was expected to be his role model….instead he was given by fate a radical brother and obviously fanatical mother…..think about it if only for a moment. I believe he had no time to become a “terrorist” in the true sense of the word but instead was spinning out of control without a second for rational thought. Do you know for sure given those very circumstances if you would pull away and run or would you latch on to the only family you have…..make no mistake about it…this young man is every much a victim as those dead and injured and his life is over at the ripe old age of 19….how is it that none of us have the ability when in the midst of tragedy to wear another’s shoes? If the almighty one can forgive this KID then why on earth do we have so much trouble……it could be your son, your brother and how would you write his story then?

    • Nicholas Match

      Empathy may not be the most useful tool in this case, but it is a start. His culture, family, religion, are too foreign for most Americans, including myself, to truly understand and therefore it may not be the right avenue of thought to “put yourself in his shoes”. As far as him being a victim? To a degree, yes, based on the RS article his life was pretty screwed up. But to chalk the whole series of events up to him being victimized by his family is not enough. Strive for a deeper, multi-dimensional understanding. The anger people feel is typically driven by fear. And in this case, many are afraid of understanding this young man so they choose ignorance; the parent of fear.

      • Bruce_Leet

        I haven’t read the RS article yet, so I find your comment very strange… what are readers afraid to understand exactly? are you saying his brother forced him to do everything?

        if that’s the case, why hasn’t he apologized yet? why did he ask for additional lawyers to be added to his team of pro-bono defense lawyers?

        • Nicholas Match

          To understand why he did this and who he is puts many people on edge because there is the fear that perhaps a small part of them would not be able to put 100% blame on him for his actions, or possibly see him as the seemingly normal kid that almost all of his friends though he was. Nobody likes to feel deceived. But until we investigate for ourselves, we won’t know. It’s easier to live in the dark, without understanding, because we can put blame on this “monster” without ever having to expose him as a person. In fact, just a 19 year old kid. Yes he performed a heinous crime, regardless of what/who compelled him to do it and deserves punishment. I cannot fathom why he did what he did, but if he were that passionate about it, then I doubt getting caught would be the thing to make him apologize. And as far as I know, his court-appointed lawyers were the ones who requested a death penalty expert after the number of charges resulting in the death penalty jumped from 2 to 17.

    • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

      If this guy is a “victim”, then how far back down the chain of his life do we have to go before we find someone who is actually responsible for their actions? Using your logic, no one is responsible for anything they do.

      Because if you’re going to make excuses for what he did, then you can do the same thing for EVERYONE that has ever committed an atrocity. Hell, I suppose we could say Hitler was a victim of his upbringing.

      I don’t give a damn if you were abused and beaten, brainwashed, and tortured, if you know that building a bomb and murdering people is wrong, and you still go through with it, then you are responsible for your own actions.

      He knew full well what he was doing, and did it anyway.

      Victim my ass.

    • Bruce_Leet

      I’d be plenty angry and disappointed at him if it was my son or brother… why would I have so much trouble forgiving him? did you see the pictures of the bombing?? there was people with shreds of limbs left hanging on in extreme agony! …for what purpose?? I think anger at this kid is a totally normal reaction, and I would find forgiveness to be very strange.. why should he be forgiven so quickly? I wouldn’t even consider forgiveness until he made some efforts to undo the massive amount of damage he did!!!

      and he doesn’t seem to be making any efforts to undo his actions! has he even apologized to the families of the murder victims or to the city of Boston??? my understanding is that he has asked for ADDITIONAL pro-bono lawyers!!!! he already has a legal TEAM but he asked for an additional lawyer named David Bruck to be added to his already existing TEAM of defense lawyers!!!!

      doesn’t that sound like he’s planning to plead “not guilty”?? pleading “not guilty” to actions that one has actually performed is lying is it not? and aren’t those lawyers financed by the boston tax-payers??

      that sounds like the height of arrogance to me… to assist in murdering THREE Boston citizens while they were watching a foot race, to assist in having the limbs and flesh flayed from numerous other Boston citizens, to flee from the police, to fire shots at police that could have killed them not to mention could have pierced the homes of people nearby, forcing the police to fire back and risk hitting homes nearby, get caught but NOT apologize and NOT plead guilty, and then have the NERVE TO ASK FOR MORE FREE LEGAL ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITIZENS HE HELPED MURDER!!!

      does that sound to you like he has contrition and remorse?? talk to the hand and grant me more free lawyers???

  • https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumighthavemissed/home Tom Fontaine

    Why don’t you show us what really happened…List of Fabricated Crimes – * Palestine * 911 Truths be Told * Israel *

  • steve

    should have a bullet hole where the red dot was!

    • dqdqwdqw

      and a couple hundred more just to be safe

      • cessnadriver

        Why do you advocate murder?

        How does advocating murder over religion make you better than others who advocate murder over religion?

        Answer: it doesn’t .

        • dqdqwdqw

          This has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with the fact that he planned to kill as many as possible. I don’t care what religion you are, if you do what he did you deserve to die, end of story.

    • cessnadriver

      Murder is always the answer.

      • steve

        people like him killed my family on flight 175, so kiss my ass!

        • cessnadriver

          Did “people like him” turn into a bigot?

          No, you did that yourself.

          Unless you let others be in control of your emotions.

          Murder is never the answer. So kiss my ass.

          • steve

            If you served your country in Vietnam, you have my deepest and heartfelt gratitude, but you can still kiss my ass!!!

  • cessnadriver

    Notice that the laser sights are not trained on CBM.

    The Rolling Stone cover is about the banality of evil.

    • Nicholas Match

      Banality of evil with regards to Tamerlan, yes. Jahar? Not so sure. He was quite assimilated and I think he knew that what he was doing wasn’t normal, but had convinced himself that there was enough reason to carry out the attack, especially with an older more fanatical brother urging him on.

    • http://www.fibrowitch.net Jan Dumas

      As a life long proud Bostonian I read CBM as CHB and laughed my ass off. I read the article and I looked at the picture, yes the RS photo looks a bit shopped, but as I’m in Boston I will not be holding the actual magazine in my hands any time soon. RS wants us to feel sorry for the bombers and the friends that helped him. They also trash UMass Darthmouth and the entire city of Darthmouth. I’m surprised they don’t call the city beantown.

  • Kimberly Gibson

    eff you Sean Murphy. YOU took these photos? YOU should be called in to
    testify about what those guestapo goons did to an innocent, UNARMED,
    young man AFTER he tried to surrender. YOU were there, right? YOU
    witnessed it, right? As a photographer, did you bother to examine the
    other photos collected in an effort to ‘identify’ the ‘suspects’…or
    are you also responsible for shopping them too? YOU make me SICK. Very
    first LIE YOUR bosses told us…. the bombs were placed in BLACK
    backpacks. Did you see the video footage Mr. Murphy? Which of the EVIL
    ‘suspects’ was carrying a BLACK backpack? Which? NEITHER, effing LIARS.
    Hundreds of rounds shot at a boat in a ‘shootout’ ? with ‘evil’ suspect
    who shot HIMSELF in the throat? When, Mr. Murphy, AFTER SURRENDERING?
    And with WHAT WEAPON? Was the pen he used to scribble a confession with
    a destroyed hand some kind of fake gun? Shot himself, my #$%$…he was
    UNARMED. Ever try to ‘write’ on a fiberglass boat? I suppose he did
    it in blood? ALL OF YOU. ALL OF YOU, IN THE KNOW, ON THE GOVERNMENT
    PAYROLL should ROT IN HELL. YOU are all an INSULT to legitimate, law
    abiding officers. Did you also photograph the ILLEGAL lockdown of
    Boston? Did you take photos of LEO ILLEGALLY removing people from their
    homes at GUNPOINT WITHOUT WARRANTS? Boston STRONG? really? I’m a 56 year old woman who has
    ALWAYS loved my country, and still do, but it’s being destroyed by this
    GOVERNMENT and people like YOU are complicit in that destruction. The
    Tsarnaev’s, the Todashevs… the families of the Special Forces agents
    who ‘accidentally’ fell from a helicopter. There is NO proof that
    either Tsarnaev killed Officer Collier and YOUR bosses tried to blame
    the shooting of Donahue on the Tsarnaevs. FRIENDLY FIRE, you don’t say?
    These families have been just as victimized as any one else in this
    GOVERNMENT perpetrated scam of a scandal. Watch the you tube video of the
    pink lady. Watch the video of the Brassard family ….DEMAND a REFUND. Word to the wise…stay away from so-called
    government ‘drills’. Bombs really do explode, some people get killed or
    injured, and NEXT TIME, it might just be YOU they blame, murder, or
    shoot in the face. But be sure, Mr. Murphy will be there to capture the
    moment.

    • brian_x

      Ugh. A Jaharist. Shouldn’t you be writing fan mail to Chris Brown or something?

      • Kimberly Gibson

        Why? Because I blame the GOVERNMENT for what happened rather than the patsies they blamed. Get a life and do your homework Brian. Start with one of the easy lies. Jahar’s backpack was WHITE, there’s no mistaking it, or are you colorblind too? When something is CLEARLY wrong with the ‘evidence’, I’m a truth seeker. Sorry you’ve got a problem with it. Maybe you should grow a spine.

        • Dude

          Brian hasn’t done any research at all like most of america’s braindead population that follows the news media around.

        • Bruce_Leet

          if Jahar is innocent what method was used to pick him as a patsy?

          did they assign numbers to street addresses and then roll a die to see which number came up? like was he chosen totally at random? why did the car-jacked SUV owner blame the brothers?

          • Kimberly Gibson

            Based upon thousands of comments I’ve read on this scandal, perhaps if he was any religion other than Muslim, the government-created Islamaphobes m-i-g-h-t, might question the obvious lies they are being told. Instead they are satisfied and have deemed him guilty before his trial. Did they roll a dice? May as well have. You’re not color blind, are you? You explain how black is white and white is the new black. I’d really like to hear an explanation on the backpacks. Have you read about the three other men, one being a Boston police officer, who have been found with ALL of the pressure cooker bomb materials of which the Tsarneav brothers had none. And why is the media just NOW reporting on it? Why did Danny blame the brothers? Do some research. Why did Danny tell several different versions of his story? Which, if any, are the truth? Did you know that the car-jacked SUV was being driven by the son of a police officer? Listen to the police scanner that night. Our society has become so busy with living their lives that the government via the media, has succeeded in carrying on it’s agenda with very little notice. And it’s much easier for those who don’t want their lives to be ‘bothered’ or ‘disrupted’, to ACCEPT the government/media version of whatever they are told and label truth seekers with derogatory labels, just to shut them up and turn off the light . This country is going to hell in a hand basket and when it crashes and burns, I venture to guess that more than half the nation is going to wonder what the hell happened when they weren’t looking.

          • xoj_21

            its not that hard remenber NSA?
            they can check his calls and planning.
            they have everything,
            but i think he was picked as lamb. to put the blame on.

    • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

      How is Elvis, and have you seen him lately?

      • Kimberly Gibson

        Government said the backpacks were BLACK….what color did YOU see the suspects carrying Mr. Cole? You’re quite a comedian….I have a video you’ll really enjoy watching…laughed myself silly. When you’re done laughing, please do take a minute and explain it to me. I’d really like to understand what happened. Oh, and there’s a second one, not quite as funny, but fascinating as well. Since you’ll be on YOUTUBE anyway, maybe you can provide me with an explanation for it as well. You know how to do a search, right? It’s titled, PlasmaBurns Busted in Boston Bombing. Start with the funny one first…seems like you could use a laugh. But you have to watch the whole thing, the punch line is at the very end.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PTTs0w65aM

  • cessnadriver

    Here’s my plan:

    Try him or allow a plea as an American citizen.

    Denaturalize the little assclown.

    Declare him an enemy combatant.

    Hold him incommunicado in supermax. No visits from mom, no contact with the outside world. Maybe let him visit with the Unibomber.

    Bye bye, Joker.

  • Dustin Rhodes

    I hope he is found not guilty and its proven that he had nothing to do with what his brother did. Just so all you slandering fucks can get a life

    • brian_x

      He could have decided not to follow his brother, you know. He made a conscious decision to get involved and has said as much.

      • xoj_21

        he is 19, he could have been forced.

        • brian_x

          That’s possible, but it doesn’t seem to be the case here.

    • Dude

      They really wanted to kill him like the FBI did with their friend.

  • Michelle Harvey Perez

    doesn’t sound like a speed bump from what this witness said
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bMXwWaMqu-0

  • Girli

    My heart breaks for this young guy. Not only did he kill three people and wound countless others, he also ruined his life. How could he be so stupid? He is a really cute guy. Girls would like him whether he is on a cover or not. Sad.

    • Teapartytommy

      Jesus, I hope you are being sarcastic.

  • sunstamp

    His throat looks fine when he is getting off the boat. What did they do to him while he was lying on the ground??

  • Kim Rdrd

    Holy Bible John 16. Jesus is speaking here:”All this I have told you so that you will not (be offended) or fall away (from my teachings). 2 They will put you out of the synagogues (and churches); in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. 3 They will do such things because they have not known (God) the Father or me (Jesus Son of God, Messiah and Savior),. 4 I have told you this, so that when their time (of killing) comes you will remember that I warned you about them.

    Daniel 8
    23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors (Law-breakers and terrorists) are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

    24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power (Satan’s power ?): and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

    25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft (witchcraft ?) to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by PEACE shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without (HUMAN) hand. (GOD WILL BREAK HIM ?).

    Daniel 7:25

    And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: (get rid of holidays and try to introduce religious laws?) and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

  • ArgleBjargle

    Ho hum. The economy is in the toilet, Congress is a failure, education is too expensive and people have their panties in an uproar because of a picture on the cover of Rolling Stone.

    • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

      Only the PR trolls ‘working’ to defend the Boston Scam

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    Most trolls don’t have US values
    most trolls love more crucifixions

  • misha2009

    “This guy is evil. This is the real Boston bomber.” More proof that the trial cannot be legally held in Boston as it is not possible for the accused to get an impartial jury. If the shadow puppet they’ve nicknamed ‘Danny’ and the note-in-the-boat are their strongest evidence that he is the true culprit, then many of us remain skeptical.

  • Whatif

    If the “sniper” in the first photo would’ve sneezed and pulled the trigger, it would’ve cost $1.50 in lead instead of the tens of millions of dollars it will cost to protect/prosecute/imprison him.

  • Hegetarian

    Not sure these photos are accomplishing what the photographer set out to do – it just reminds me of our militarized police and our steady crawl towards an Orwellian state.

    BTW, Tsarnaev looks like a stoner. Not exactly rock star material.

    • jules68

      yes because we all know rock stars don’t smoke weed………

    • sickbastard

      Looks like the cops doing their job to me

  • Ted Nolan

    Love the red dot on the forehead. Just a few more ounces would have done the US a great service.

  • tm3545

    Too bad they cant show the bin laden photos . ITs good to see pics of the bad guys in pain for a change.

  • Mark Ebner

    The cops just published evidence. Classy.

  • Hegetarian

    “No more hurting people.” – Martin Richard

  • Joel Arthur

    Boston Magazine clearly states these pics are a “response”, they didn’t create the controversy. Would it have been okay if they used a pic of Charles Manson playing golf? Johar is relevant because he’s an alleged terrorist, so a responsible publication would use any number of easily available images that show him as a terrorist, not a collegiate. Would it be a relevant image to use a picture of Tamerlan boxing on the cover?

  • MoreEntitlementsPlease

    Rolling Stone liberals pissing off Boston liberals. You gotta love it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/james.duho James Duho

    this jerk looks good with a laser spot on his forehead..

  • Joel Arthur

    Wow you’re so far off. Conservatives are more likely to judge Rolling Stone here, liberals are more likely to rationalize it. You should check online I think there might be a course in Political Science. Judging from your understanding you may want to go with an online college.

  • Teapartytommy

    This Akbar pr**k wanted to create another Boston massacre. eff him, and eff Rolling Stone. I don’t give a crap if the once great state of Massachusetts is liberal. They are Americans being attacked by radical Islam. Stand together.

    • brian_x

      As someone Massachusetts born and bred, I think I can safely tell you to fuck off, we don’t need your “help”. And get rid of that stupid Tea Party tag — you have no fucking right to it. (The Tea Party was about protesting corporate protectionism, not taxes.)

      • Teapartytommy

        Hey brainiac, the Boston tea party was a protest of the tea act of 1773 i.e. taxation without representation. As a resident of the formerly great state of Massachusetts you should know that, but idiots liberals like you would rather make shit up and vote Barney Frank.

        • brian_x

          That was not about tax per se. It was about protecting the British East India Company’s tea interests from colonial competitors. In other words, corporate protectionism. Taxation without representation was a separate issue, and Barney Frank is actually pretty awesome. I would have loved to have the opportunity to vote for him, but where I live I’m stuck with Bill “Mr. Invisible” Keating.

          I’m afraid it’s you whose history education is defective.

  • ChantelleMoore

    The Rolling Stone cover was done for homoerotica by the editor, who likes that kinda stuff. Who cares who died, he got a wooodie over the Muslim boy.

    • Teapartytommy

      Didn’t read the article and won’t. I’ll take your word for it. Kudos for the stores pulling this rag from their shelves.

  • mikey

    I thought he shot himself in the neck and not concious when they got to him? That one with him and the lazer target on his head + what I thought i read .. confuse me greatly.

  • bobh2010

    The real face of terror is the militarized police that violated many citizens 4th Amendment rights as they terrorized the city.

    • Teapartytommy

      Yeah, I get that, but it wasn’t Holder’s bunch.

      • bobh2010

        All police departments have been flooded with excess military equipment. And they’re staffed with people who have forgotten what the Constitution says. As the Nazi’s famously said….”I was only following orders.”

    • Anonamous Guy

      Nail on the head….

  • Mic Flynn

    Dear Boston it seems once again you are under attack. Please know that America stands with you. You showed how tough you were after the bombings, again show the resolve you are known for. Thank you

    • Michael Appugliese

      Canada stands with you too!!

    • rockyroad

      Boston is not tough. They allowed the federal storm troopers to shut down their city, place everyone under house arrest and remove people from their homes at gunpoint with no warrants. They then thanked the oppressors for violating their rights. Boston should be asahamed of themselves for allowing themselves to being treated like that.

      • Anonamous Guy

        They sure did roll over for the feds…WEAK!!!!

  • cessnadriver

    I talked to someone who saw Joker and Speedbump drop the backpack near the flag of Israel. She was far enough away not to be injured.

  • http://www.anotherwineblog.com WineWonkette

    and sadly, Rolling Stone is one of the few places that still employs actual journalists who do actual in-depth stories that don’t start with talking points from Fox News.

    • Teapartytommy

      You mean like MSN or CNN, or the other networks who just lie?

      • http://www.anotherwineblog.com WineWonkette

        Those networks are simply lazy. Fox, otoh, doesn’t report news. There is a reason there are no longer Sedition Laws. But comically, if there were that entire network would be in jail. The 1st Amendment covers ALL media. Not just the cheerleaders of the right or the left.

  • Michael Appugliese

    Well one thing is for sure. Rolling Stone is in the business of selling magazines & the more hype ppl make over the cover, the more money Rolling Stone is gonna make.

  • Sunshine1011

    All I see is an incredible amount of waste of taxpayers money. Bottom line is, he was caught because a CITIZEN called him in.

    $1,000,000,000 to catch this guy? Civil liberties destroyed to catch him? And all it was was a phone call.

    ‘merica

    • Anonamous Guy

      Ironic. Once the “LOCK DOWN” (unwarranted)was lifted he was found in minutes…

  • Sherrie

    All it comes down to these were too really bad man

  • farmasyst

    It would have been more appropriate if Murphy would have admitted to what they were hoping to do that night; kill Tsarnaev . The radio feeds coming in that night clearly stated that they were going to “light up the boat”. Then a supervisor called that off because “too much media was listening.” Check around….Clyde Lewis and Jack Blood have played the audio clips.

    • public_servant_watch

      Validation that an unarmed 19 year old kid was tortured by Massachusetts law enforcement. Even worse by all the actual evidence, the fake criminal case, the FBI refusing to go before Congress and the related homicides by the FBI this kid was set-up. These people are evil and hopefully they will be getting a REAL criminal trial!!

      • Anonamous Guy

        Proof???? Love to see it…

        • public_servant_watch

          Sure happy to promote understanding of this farce. I can point you to other comments I have made that have links posted. The most important would be this FAKE criminal proceeding which the first amendment center is now taking on – I believe my comment will help them and I have all the documents and dockets that I will be sending them . http://disq.us/8e6f1f

          This is an article where my comment will show what a farce our law makers are and how the older brother being radicalized was a complete lie. Includes audio from Dagestan and leaders who have contact with actual radicals. http://disq.us/8e6f3g

          This article addresses the FBI refusing to go to hearings. My comment has picture and video attached that you will find quite interesting. There is a wealth of information- if you are on twitter I can hook you up with various grids that show the research which includes the MA State auditor assisting setting up FAKE victims at Blast site one and then most interestingly being brought to an ambulance by wheelchair as a victim herself.

          The only actual casualties were related to the metabolic, stress reactions and dehydration of the runners in an event such as this. They defrauded America and it carries to the highest level in government. http://disq.us/8e6f4w

          This will get you started. This is 3 months of work by literally thousands of people and I cannot fit it all here. There is no theory; there is material evidence and alleged crime!!

  • Tim

    No one seems to be mentioning the fact that the guy that released these photos is on scene to take photos for official use, not to take photos that he can release to the public as he sees fit.

    • MeniscusDiscus

      And why not? What’s the damage?

      • Tim

        For starters these very photos could be used in the trial to make a strong impact on the jurors and being made public now could taint that effect. Second, it shows his disrespect for the chain of command and procedure. How would you feel if photos were taken of you during a police investigation and some rogue cop just passed them out to the public? You can not say oh its ok in this case because of what this guy did but its wrong to pass around photos of someone else. He has been suspended and is udner review as he should be.

    • Anonamous Guy

      Looks like you have been successful indoctrinated into believing that it’s none of your business. Least you forget who ALL these people work for and are answerable to. Shame on you.

      • Tim

        This has nothing to being answerable to anyone. This isn’t photos showing police wrong doing. This is police evidence that this individual decided on his own to take out and give to the media. Did you ever think maybe these images will be seen by potential jurors and then when they are seen during the trial the might not have the impact they would otherwise? How would you feel if photos of you were taken and just distributed by a rogue cop? There are channels for these things. By your train of thought I should be able to walk into an evidence locker and handle whatever I want because guess what my tax dollars pay for it and they answer to me, or how about I go take a police cruiser for a spin.

        • Anonamous Guy

          Excellent points Tim. 15 years ago I would have agreed wholeheartedly. I’ve grown too sinical(sp)of “the man” to do the right thing these days. ie; Zimmerman… Even the Boston PD for shutting down the entire city WRONG! But you may be right.

          • Tim

            Well as far as locking the city down, unfortunately they were in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t kind of situation. Lock the city down and you are seen as radical and over reaching, don’t do it and some dumbasses go out trying to hunt the guy themselves, or just being a lookie loo, get themselves killed and you are criticized for it. They cast way to wide of a net perhaps, but a net had to be cast. Hind site is 20/20 and I honestly can’t say what I would do if I was in that situation.

          • Anonamous Guy

            Ironic tthat removing the lock down enables a citizen to spot the guy as you would expect…

          • Tim

            The guy went out to smoke in his backyard, I guarantee you there were people that did that despite the shelter in place order. Who knows how many more people might have been taken hostage if they hadn’t been behind locked doors. He was in this mans backyard he might have gone in his house and taken him hostage instead. The suspects had shown a willingness to take drastic measures, to kill, and to take a hostage.

  • Guest

    What I cannot figure out is why nobody has pointed out that the photo on the cover of Rolling Stone was shown over and over on television broadcasts, news programs, talk shows, internet news sites and in magazines and newspapers long before Rolling Stone decided to put it on its cover? Why does it suddenly become offensive to see this now familiar photograph on the cover of a popular magazine that is KNOWN for its controversial and provocative cover photos?

    The uproar over this it completely baffling.

  • Joanne Kennedy

    How about this – we stop publishing photos of the bombing, the victims, the suspects? I grew up with terrorism in the UK of the 70s and 80s, Here is the thing, in the UK we just moved on – we mourned, we were angry but we moved on from each bombing and we did not plaster everyone’s photo on magazine covers. .I was at Victoria Train Station when the IRA bombed it, and I was at the Boston Marathon with my 3 year old (and who says lightening does not strike twice?). Has anyone ever considered that doing this is detrimental to recovery because it just dredges up the memories and makes people relive it over and over again.

  • Chris Blair

    What I cannot figure out is why nobody has pointed out that the photo on the cover of Rolling Stone was shown over and over on television broadcasts, news programs, talk shows, internet news sites and in magazines and newspapers long before Rolling Stone decided to put it on its cover? Why does it suddenly become offensive to see this now familiar photograph on the cover of a popular magazine that is KNOWN for its controversial and provocative cover photos?

    The uproar over this it completely baffling.

    • nolaredhead

      Especially when they’ve also had Charles Manson on the cover.

  • Glenn Grimstad

    TO AARON K KRAUS,,, You sir are the person that probably is losing his job over this horrible cover to what was a good magazine… You sir needs to apologize to the families that lost their lives to a person they did not have an issue with….You sir needs to work with the scum lawyer that will try and release this person whom terrorized people that did not hurt his people nor did not care to hurt them. You sir,, are the biggest piece of crap that ever roamed this earth. PEOPLE DIED AND WILL NEVER HAVE A NORMAL LIFE BUT YOU STILL VALIDATE IT. This person should never be glorified or put to the forefront so others can follw such a horrible deed. I hope you don’t have family . as when someone hurts them we will all smile. YOU ARE SCUM!

    • MeniscusDiscus

      What is all this “You sir” stuff? You getting ready to pull out your glove and slap him across his puss? Challenge him to a duel?

  • Bruce Ramsey

    I don’t mind them putting him on the cover if they also give the Quranic reasons as to why he did what he did (see Quran 9:111, 38 and 39).

  • itsdeeedeee

    He didn’t do it!

  • Simi

    If you look at the headline of the story it says “The New Face of Terror” right? I think it is possible RS was trying to get the point across that anyone is capable of committing heinous acts…even popular college kids. Just another viewpoint

  • Kimberly Gibson

    Sean Murphy – RELIEVED OF DUTY!!! Maybe he’ll get pissed off enough now that he’ll start revealing the TRUTH!!!

    • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

      Maybe you’ll get treatment one day so that you’ll start to accept the truth.

      “red dot forehead boy” is a scumbag.

  • Amy Halterman-Chou

    These photos are not nearly as gruesome, as those of the victims that were mutilated by this monster and his brother. Sadly, there will be more attacks on Americans. Since 911, there have been another 700 or more mosques built. This is the fastest growing religion in the world and there are many more people among us just like the Tsarnaev brothers.

    • http://www.anotherwineblog.com WineWonkette

      What a ridiculous, bigoted statement. Timothy McVeigh was raised Catholic. Does someone state that all the Cathedrals built are going to result in attacks on Americans? Of course not! Why is it the only time someone points to a religion as a motivator is when it is not Christianity?

      • Anonamous Guy

        Defending the religion nof tolerance I see… PATHETIC!!!!

      • Elmer

        Don’t even BEGIN to compare the barbaric Islamic Facist Terrorists in the hundred of thousands HELL BENT on destroying and killing Infidels with one or two loony christians — The tenet of Christianity is to “turn the other cheek” and non-violence — islam’s teaching are just the OPPOSITE !!

    • Anonamous Guy

      At least the gubment aint spying on them… Smart. So who are the fools here?

  • Thea343

    Sometime in the course of events of the bombing, the face of evil switched from the so called perpetrators to the so called good guys. The overly armed FBI/police/militia and the overly vocal haters are frankly, scary and repulsive. The TV image of 6000+ law enforcement officers in full military gear chasing an unarmed teenager would have been comic if is wasn’t so tragic for Tsarnaev.

    No matter whether he is looking cute or covered in blood, Dzhokhar appears as the victim now. He is hard to demonize. He’s just simply not the monster that many people want him to be. At the worse, he’s a good kid who was bullied into bad acts by a older sibling. For what we know about him, he was unlikely to take action on his own. He was much more likely to be chillin’ at a party.

    Somehow this infuriates a segment of society who just want an eye for an eye.

    • sickbastard

      Making excuses for a man, yes a man, who indiscriminately murdered a 9-year old. Classy.

    • Luka D Grindstaff

      I was bullied terribly. I would never make a choice to murder. As for “the face of evil” switching around: there are bigoted haters and there are weird obsessive fans but there are also decent people who know the facts and still disagree. No one has a claim on righteousness and the first person who says they do is the last one you should trust.

    • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

      “an unarmed teenager”
      =======================

      Yeah he was “unarmed” because he had already used his weapon on Innocent men, women and children when he set off a bomb that killed them.

      That’s what gutless cowards do.

    • hus bin pharteen

      hard to demonize? gimme a freakin break. he and his beloved brother detonated 2 bombs in Boston! Killing, maiming and wounding alot of people.

      ARE YOU THAT FREAKIN STUPID?

      • Vince Foster

        yup, they are that dumb.

  • TheLoneDissenter

    Thanks for publishing these photos, BM. It shows what this piece of excrement is really all about and the great job law enforcement did bringing him in. Rolling Stone magazine can suck it.

  • Ily Michael

    The same hypocritical morons who are bitching about RS are the ones who have over-loaded the bostonmagazine.com site to glare at these others. They’re not even intelligent enough to see the irony

    • jhkraemer

      For a good laugh check what lly Michael feeds her brain..Liberal LOON

    • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

      Well now to be fair, one article paints this piece of trash in a bit of a more positive light, and the other one shows him for what he is.

    • Anonamous Guy

      Another rocket scientist …

  • http://Denverbroncos.com/ Virgil Cole

    In each photo of this scumbag you can almost see him thinking “maybe this wasn’t such a good idea”!

    That red dot following him around on his forehead is priceless!

  • shades909

    All those guns and heavy artillery for an unarmed 19 year old who has pled NOT GUILTY. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    • Anonamous Guy

      That’s a joke right? Cuz NO human being can be that stupid…

      • Vince Foster

        47% (and growing) are.

    • hus bin pharteen

      you really can’t be that stupid, can you?

    • progressives suck the big one

      Another example of govt education at it’s finest!

    • I Am Spartacus

      he was unarmed because he ran out of ammo and who cares that he pled not guilty? Aaron Hernandez pled not guilty, you out there defending him as well?

  • Paul Smythe

    Wow. Thanks for posting images that glamorize the police state in an attempt to minimize the glamorization of an accused terrorist.

    I am finding it difficult to identify who the terrorists actually are.

  • mb

    Why haven’t we thanked the boat owner, who finally could come out of his house after lockdown and have a cigarette? I guess his wife doesn’t like him to smoke in the house. I think they skipped his street. We gotta give credit to the smokers.

  • linda barnett

    What is going on when a magazine cover can go out like this
    Featuring a guy who killed and maimed people, yet if we ask,
    What is the connection to hastings being possibly murdered,
    Sites are censoring those questions? Is rs sending the govt a
    Message?

  • vertical2010

    Thank you Sgt. Sean Murphy! Your statement obviously speaks from the heart and is the most rational one I have heard about this entire issue – especially the part about disturbed individuals who want to get their picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone.

    These pics should have been officially released shortly after the incident. We need to discourage wanna-bees and copycats, not encourage them by glamorizing these monsters.

    • public_servant_watch

      Sgt. Sean Murphy needs to address his higher ups who are well aware of this farce and continue to leave vulnerable people who are stressed to the max in the dark. The corrupt in the instant matter are now destroying their own. It’s time to stop before we see suicides and hush murders. There is not one human being on this planet that would support this kid if there was actual evidence of his participation and actual carnage. THERE IS NOT!!

  • Jennifer McKelvey

    Is that a hole in his lower neck in the next-to-last last photo?

  • Jim Donaught

    The morons on both sides are out tonight. Same kid, different photos. Big F’n deal.

  • Heidi Farrington

    these photos do the exact opposite to me that this police officer intended. i still don’t see a monster. i see a sad exhausted bloodied young man surrendering. there is nothing disrespecful about the rolling stone cover. if you put it in context of the story it is totally appropos. i salute journalists being journalists and not just politically correct. there is too much pc out there and not enough smart insightful writing.